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Tue, 26 Jul 2022 08:45:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: by localhost (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 738755F883; Tue, 26 Jul 2022 08:45:12 -0400 (EDT) Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 08:45:12 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: aaradhya@technovanti.co.in, Aaradhya Chauhan , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Message-ID: References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="WXrc+RvQX36hNhJs" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Regarding setting a lower minrelaytxfee X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 26 Jul 2022 12:45:21 -0000 --WXrc+RvQX36hNhJs Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Tue, Jul 26, 2022 at 01:56:05PM +0530, Aaradhya Chauhan via bitcoin-dev = wrote: > I know this might be a sort of repetition for a previous question, but I = do > want to know from enthusiasts in this group that while Bitcoin was trading > at much lower price in its early days, 1 sat/vB was a good dust protection > measure. But now, I think it's a bit high for merely a dust protection > measure, and should be lowered slightly. Even if not, it should be lowered > to half when prices go double than today and keeps oscillating at that > point. As it's not a consensus rule, I think it can be done easily, just > needing support from full node operators. I support LN but I think > transaction affordability should remain constant in the future. If I'm ok= ay > to wait in a queue, I should have the option for same affordability for > minimum fees in the future as it is today. (Like we still have posts today > while email still exists). If we're expecting fee revenue to be significant in the future - with const= ant backlogs of low-fee txs - lowering the dust limit now is a good way to ensu= re the entire ecosystem is ready to deal with those conditions. We're fairly c= lose to blocks being full, so you can't argue that the dust limit provides value= by reducing block usage. All it achieves is artificially lowering mempool usag= e, putting the Bitcoin system in a no-backlog state that's quite unlike how we= 're expecting Bitcoin to operate in the future. And indeed, the state Bitcoin c= an operate in at any moment if there is a demand spike. So I'd suggest removing the fixed dust limit entirely and relying purely on= the mempool size limit to determine what is or is not dust. --=20 https://petertodd.org 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org --WXrc+RvQX36hNhJs Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCgAdFiEE0RcYcKRzsEwFZ3N5Lly11TVRLzcFAmLf4dIACgkQLly11TVR Lze2MRAAidy0AaYtJobnQa/ocqvw1NANJY0ktX04gOxh7ehUNxUo92CCpbcEulhq C70ibJNTkAuwORjxxCFMb9VUaxOypxEAQjZnh564UHPT12NRFTobF7VY20qUWccb mPknZbiNAnMhbLEctgED3XY41gw/gZUjDoZyxqbUXE+u299XxdNdIasKmpNEXpln g9ruOHdalHmEZXSLpctAHvSjAF1zDQJ8nPM2Mi2b+GRYVQc5Qo4IqmU66AF07pq4 ZGeR5cySaYE8YjiUH77PN467B5+g2hRHVjtP641ZxTZsW9N43boKNaQobZkdH0oZ 4uNy1ULezCO9XSfHVNAwZA3SOmBNPpUk6+9l6kmk+qwnLa31XDb8RURIO+HuOQJP cO8SMVx5xp4PgEO5RMtbvp6G//oyQvNNJEgQXOnt+Fw0IAb6XpzNMDpVIyyCsmEN c4GY1O6UvSH6yjDoPItIKkjd9df1ek4kopjJPc8wXrQQVOZ6buvHYNQ5ivZrIuIk xFtWPmDEbGYlR5od+7mGdNq3j42NK5tJR4RUcpczi7J1idQJi7dIm1NcKrAzDqRj qm3OVy84jO6HXXAr0zlaCOGbOmOvL2uA6Fbtq4E6P+BIh7s3PYLlqR/OvBV1I/xe /aP/bDbPNBVDJJbog+cGotfwc6XbZA24YkgDa1P2CVML41wg0qk= =bpJC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --WXrc+RvQX36hNhJs--