Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WX8W8-0003Ps-9d for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 12:19:12 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.192.53 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.192.53; envelope-from=jameson.lopp@gmail.com; helo=mail-qg0-f53.google.com; Received: from mail-qg0-f53.google.com ([209.85.192.53]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WX8W7-0000TL-Au for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 12:19:12 +0000 Received: by mail-qg0-f53.google.com with SMTP id z60so4746021qgd.40 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 05:19:05 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.224.147.77 with SMTP id k13mr14907408qav.64.1396873145849; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 05:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.119.214] (BRONTO-SOFT.car1.Raleigh1.Level3.net. [4.59.160.2]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id y9sm34020893qai.13.2014.04.07.05.19.05 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Mon, 07 Apr 2014 05:19:05 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <534297B8.4060506@gmail.com> Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 08:19:04 -0400 From: Jameson Lopp User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:24.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/24.4.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net References: In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 1.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (jameson.lopp[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WX8W7-0000TL-Au Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 12:19:12 -0000 I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one concerned about the consistent dropping of nodes. Though I think that the fundamental question should be: how many nodes do we really need? Obviously more is better, but it's difficult to say how concerned we should be without more information. I posted my thoughts last month: http://coinchomp.com/2014/03/19/bitcoin-nodes-many-enough/ I have begun working on my node monitoring project and will post updates if it results in me gaining any new insights about the network. - Jameson On 04/07/2014 07:34 AM, Mike Hearn wrote: > At the start of February we had 10,000 bitcoin nodes. Now we have 8,500 and > still falling: > > http://getaddr.bitnodes.io/dashboard/chart/?days=60 > > I know all the reasons why people *might* stop running a node (uses too > much disk space, bandwidth, lost interest etc). But does anyone have any > idea how we might get more insight into what's really going on? It'd be > convenient if the subVer contained the operating system, as then we could > tell if the bleed was mostly from desktops/laptops (Windows/Mac), which > would be expected, or from virtual servers (Linux), which would be more > concerning. > > When you set up a Tor node, you can add your email address to the config > file and the Tor project sends you emails from time to time about things > you should know about. If we did the same, we could have a little exit > survey: if your node disappears for long enough, we could email the > operator and ask why they stopped. > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Put Bad Developers to Shame > Dominate Development with Jenkins Continuous Integration > Continuously Automate Build, Test & Deployment > Start a new project now. Try Jenkins in the cloud. > http://p.sf.net/sfu/13600_Cloudbees_APR > > > > _______________________________________________ > Bitcoin-development mailing list > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >