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From: Laszlo Hanyecz <laszlo@heliacal.net>
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Date: Wed, 16 Apr 2014 21:10:56 +0000
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To: Roy Badami <roy@gnomon.org.uk>
Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Warning message when running wallet in
	Windows XP (or drop support?)
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I think a warning like this is inappropriate.

There are many reasons to use an out of date operating system and high =
level applications like wallets need not concern themselves with the =
rest of the system.  Maybe the wallet can scan your browser cache and =
tell you to stop visiting somesite.com too?

It just sounds like some kind of behavior modification that's being =
discussed here.. not-so-subtly suggesting that users shell out money for =
a newer version of the operating system, just to use their bitcoin =
wallets in a 'blessed' configuration.  This actually sounds very similar =
to what happens with Apple iPhones.. they somehow manage to 'invalidate' =
the charging cables and accessories with every major software version.  =
One day an accessory is working fine, then after the update users get a =
behavior modification nag every time they use it, urging them to buy a =
new one.  Along these same lines, might as well put a warning about the =
registry keys needing to be cleaned, and maybe a 'shock the money' =
banner[1].

You guys all know how it works with financial software - there are many =
organizations using decades old software (and hardware) because they =
know its shortcomings, they've taken care of them in a way that works =
them, and they don't want to start all over just for the sake of having =
the newest version.

-Laszlo

[1] =
http://www.buzzfeed.com/adobe/obnoxious-banner-ads-that-everyone-remembers=


On Apr 16, 2014, at 8:42 PM, Roy Badami <roy@gnomon.org.uk> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 05:20:41PM +0200, Pieter Wuille wrote:
>> On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:12 PM, Kevin <kevinsisco61784@gmail.com> =
wrote:
>>> I think we should get to the bottom of this.  Should we assume that =
xp is
>>> not secure enough?
>>=20
>> Yes.
>=20
> Do we need a similar warning for OS X 10.6?  The EOL of that one is
> *far* less well known than XP (because of Apple's failure to
> communicate product lifecycles).
>=20
> roy
>=20
>=20
>>=20
>>> What is this warning?
>>=20
>> Windows XP is no longer maintained. Don't use such a system for
>> protecting your money.
>>=20
>>> Who is issuing this warning?
>>=20
>> Microsoft: =
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/end-support-help
>>=20
>> The suggestion here is to make Bitcoin Core detect when it's running
>> on Windows XP, and warn the user (they are likely unaware of the
>> risks).
>>=20
>> --=20
>> Pieter
>>=20
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