Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8B0FB4A4 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:32:25 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-pd0-f173.google.com (mail-pd0-f173.google.com [209.85.192.173]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 24ADA266 for ; Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:32:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: by pdbbh15 with SMTP id bh15so4259198pdb.1 for ; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:32:24 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=subject:mime-version:content-type:from:in-reply-to:date:cc :message-id:references:to; bh=iAwt7QRpvh/E8qzWAJi3pQmpRFWyQxY72LgWbHmiNPo=; b=ishKdvRICrjVy9FqpZ8KaB2ySssu9hK53RobKEEhrDp7UNP3/Nx3FiluTD9dQqSD6D KFR1xNTj+9jel2KdPb1tzrsjhAVhiNoJdumcBpPq2O/YDhd0q6J3W2ZQfBw7m3GRREZ6 Nz60cQmf5tTxAYzdBU2guoVWi1uxZo2+sm4ivfCcrsdWmrNWGFD08QzzJ38rnmHmHVvu Ftl/zcC+5VLuFmeouusgjEACy9pUm7nJ/3/eeFdW5qgZuPDgdRdGP+0V/zy48Je0HsjC /bm82qmkI+dz7mP7yzkBiooO10hABkPhNUXi8f/KbASxtxllZnlurU29IdfGiqCWVZq5 zIKw== X-Received: by 10.66.118.237 with SMTP id kp13mr24734232pab.9.1437697944760; Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:32:24 -0700 (PDT) Received: from [192.168.1.107] (cpe-76-167-237-202.san.res.rr.com. [76.167.237.202]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id og1sm11029611pdb.58.2015.07.23.17.32.23 (version=TLS1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:32:23 -0700 (PDT) Mime-Version: 1.0 (Mac OS X Mail 8.2 \(2098\)) Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Apple-Mail=_EA67E20D-0852-461A-8EBE-AEE60A027CA7"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha512 X-Pgp-Agent: GPGMail 2.5b6 From: Eric Lombrozo In-Reply-To: <346D4CE0-E00D-4ABB-B131-EFA1416CB20C@me.com> Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2015 17:32:21 -0700 Message-Id: <29363BE6-72A7-4D06-A974-C52BA12FD8BD@gmail.com> References: <55B113AF.40500@thinlink.com> <6F436293-9E2B-461C-B105-FC4CF9EBFC69@gmail.com> <42BF7FEB-320F-43BE-B3D9-1D76CB8B9975@gmai> <346D4CE0-E00D-4ABB-B131-EFA1416CB20C@me.com> To: Jean-Paul Kogelman X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.2098) X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: "bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core and hard forks X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 24 Jul 2015 00:32:25 -0000 --Apple-Mail=_EA67E20D-0852-461A-8EBE-AEE60A027CA7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > On Jul 23, 2015, at 5:22 PM, Jean-Paul Kogelman = wrote: >=20 > You are not going to get a fair fee market if your only form of = enforcement is the threat of exclusion. >=20 > A more fair fee market will develop if miners start offering quality = of service, preferably at multiple tiers. At that point any interference = from a block size cap will only be detrimental. In fact it will only = highlight what the cap is actually for; to prevent monster blocks. >=20 > Add better QoS tools for miners and extend the cap (when possible) and = there's your fee market. >=20 > jp Not sure what you mean by QoS here. Either your transaction is included = or it isn=E2=80=99t. It=E2=80=99s not like you can upgrade to a master = suite with a view or anything. --Apple-Mail=_EA67E20D-0852-461A-8EBE-AEE60A027CA7 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=signature.asc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name=signature.asc Content-Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Comment: GPGTools - https://gpgtools.org iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJVsYeVAAoJEJNAI64YFENUBSAP/3qTMDJRXnJEhnSB1nidbGCC 6bfGXgG2GHBvgx9iRmMXm9eG10XD+c99nSqqsk3M8Ds2E/3LGRueqSxP87T95Aqq KF64X20eMZsZCvvJkOk+mcdCV+U7W9JqFYd+bR848JcOnqbV9qXsgDsl+u2O2+zn m+3ZdxOTM8AIfTCQJgq7Rb+i00ZFM4QV8nGkLm1XCPHBx5YM1atA9EJALBzwu5WG saik/op//apa6ik9+kkvXWWJqc9QGwcw2C7iI5BcvfDOlVYX9j1hEcdHmIH0xBS+ UOGBNcuh1kpW0jM3mSzuZuJxo5ez8TAHguYSmM+4t0dSjBD2dYM7HzrED5KQQSXG rBxiSiJLmprZwqfIDAzI/o3oiYQ90e5/UofU4+oVQE/Jzxo2hZg97PlyjjcQqTfC 8fvJGNgxWguN+py7pRLGHM/3HqE0CGdBydaq1t0+Z6pd51+w6HD6ag5cvu8ulY5H Xp/C2DVmGb+JWI42XaKr1jAxAlb9ErXYKqF12LBpunkRk3ZzCtEHZPz+j15vD/Fz AYwk4P4C3qagG/Q+UEFfBJHolDVo9mowi/HFUCPL776Trd2WdzJKhpIm0WAq34Gh 2Wy2HN6vtvucY0KAmIuXkcIPStpDFIcY5QPW+TVunR/5CdJWSTYblRTbM2EA+8BX q6lkcNiSuQ32pqxnurx0 =7q5b -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Apple-Mail=_EA67E20D-0852-461A-8EBE-AEE60A027CA7--