Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YqPYw-00027Z-PZ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 07 May 2015 17:26:18 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of bluematt.me designates 192.241.179.72 as permitted sender) client-ip=192.241.179.72; envelope-from=bitcoin-list@bluematt.me; helo=mail.bluematt.me; Received: from mail.bluematt.me ([192.241.179.72]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.76) id 1YqPYv-0000o6-HA for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 07 May 2015 17:26:18 +0000 Received: from [172.17.0.2] (gw.vpn.bluematt.me [162.243.132.6]) by mail.bluematt.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 9A8F8543D7; Thu, 7 May 2015 17:26:11 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <554BA032.4040405@bluematt.me> Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 17:26:10 +0000 From: Matt Corallo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:31.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/31.6.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Gavin Andresen , Mike Hearn References: <554A91BE.6060105@bluematt.me> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 AWL AWL: Adjusted score from AWL reputation of From: address X-Headers-End: 1YqPYv-0000o6-HA Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Block Size Increase X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 07 May 2015 17:26:18 -0000 On 05/07/15 14:52, Gavin Andresen wrote: > For reference: the blog post that (re)-started this debate, and which > links to individual issues, is here: > http://gavinandresen.ninja/time-to-roll-out-bigger-blocks > > In it, I asked people to email me objections I might have missed. I > would still appreciate it if people do that; it is impossible to keep up > with this mailing list, /r/bitcoin posts and comments, and > #bitcoin-wizards and also have time to respond thoughtfully to the > objections raised. People have been sharing the same objections as on this list for months, I'm not sure what is new here. > I would very much like to find some concrete course of action that we > can come to consensus on. Some compromise so we can tell entrepreneurs > "THIS is how much transaction volume the main Bitcoin blockchain will be > able to support over the next eleven years." I think this is a huge issue. You've been wandering around telling people that the blocksize will increase soon for months, when there is very clearly no consensus that it should in the short-term future. The only answer to this that anyone with a clue should give is "it will very, very likely be able to support at least 1MB blocks roughly every 10 minutes on average for the next eleven years, and it seems likely that a block size increase of some form will happen at some point in the next eleven years", anything else is dishonest.