Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EC20C97 for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:14:03 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from blaine.gmane.org (unknown [195.159.176.226]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A85CF46F for ; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:14:02 +0000 (UTC) Received: from list by blaine.gmane.org with local (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1dxZZV-0004yW-V7 for bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org; Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:13:49 +0200 X-Injected-Via-Gmane: http://gmane.org/ To: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org From: Andreas Schildbach Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 16:13:48 +0200 Message-ID: References: <20170927160654.GA12492@savin.petertodd.org> Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Complaints-To: usenet@blaine.gmane.org User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.3.0 In-Reply-To: Content-Language: en-US X-Spam-Status: No, score=2.4 required=5.0 tests=DKIM_ADSP_ALL,RDNS_NONE autolearn=disabled version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Address expiration times should be added to BIP-173 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 28 Sep 2017 14:14:04 -0000 On 09/28/2017 02:43 PM, Sjors Provoost via bitcoin-dev wrote: >> This feels redundant to me; the payment protocol already has an >> expiration time. > > The BIP-70 payment protocol has significant overhead and most importantly requires back and forth. Emailing a bitcoin address or printing it on an invoice is much easier, so I would expect people to keep doing that. The payment request message is just as one-way as an address is. It is already being emailed and printed on an invoice, in fact it often acts as the invoice. Even more problematic, if you were to include an expiry date in a BIP-173 address and put that into a payment request, wallets wouldn't be allowed to parse that expiry date from the script without violating the BIP70 spec.