Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2410325A for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:33:36 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: delayed 00:09:02 by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from ns3094582.localdomain (outbound.chino.ws [91.121.200.135]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id CE878157 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:33:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f176.google.com (mail-ig0-f176.google.com [209.85.213.176]) by ns3094582.localdomain (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 65A0081982 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 18:18:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: by igfj19 with SMTP id j19so66916013igf.0 for ; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:24:29 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.108.20 with SMTP id hg20mr19315980igb.47.1439843069152; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Reply-To: bitdev@theochino.com Received: by 10.36.156.6 with HTTP; Mon, 17 Aug 2015 13:24:29 -0700 (PDT) Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 16:24:29 -0400 Message-ID: From: Theo Chino To: Bitcoin Dev Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=089e01493b54ab59fb051d87966d X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin XT Fork X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 17 Aug 2015 20:33:36 -0000 --089e01493b54ab59fb051d87966d Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hello, I might have a "crazy" simple solution. From the literature I read, it seems that Satochi has the keys that would authenticate him using Bitcoin. HBO John Oliver's program might have given me (and hopefully others) the brilliant idea to protect the Bitcoin network from the overzealous reach of the politicians. One need to start a Church, and to start the Church one need funds (121UZ1hDs9MgCHonA8vjXr89D8FuDf5c7t) to start. John Oliver's program on HBO about Churches (and the hypocrisy of some) was epic and such entity could argue that Bitcoin is a belief system (which it is) and would force the issue at a Federal level under the Church and State separation. - John's video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg At this time, I am waiting for the License issue to walk its course in New York State. Currently: - I am waiting for my License to be denied (to protest) and appeal it. - Waiting to hear from the License process to appeal the law in general. - Meeting Elected officials (in New York City, NY State, and France) and educating them on Bitcoin. Every time we (the community) talk about Bitcoin, it can sound like religion; therefore why not go all the way and do what John Oliver did ? Seed money would help. :) Regarding the Fork, from my perspective of a small company, I see that like it was with IRC with the ICMP node split. The Church thing is not here to take side but to "try" to protect the Bitcoin. We will need to ordain ministers selected after completing prescribed courses of study setup by the developers. In short I am asking Satochi to help this church with original coins. If it is a troll, I am talking to the Dev Community at large to recruit them to ordain the ministers. Regards, *Theo Chino* *https://www.facebook.com/groups/557495624389384 (NY State)http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new-york * *(My position on the fork is still the same as when I ran for a seat of the Foundation; still don't have enough information and thing will move faster than I can devote the time to read about it.)* On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at 1:30 PM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > For the record I would like to share my technical analysis of the Satoshi > email which I wrote in a pastebin (http://pastebin.com/Ct5M8fa2) a few > days ago. > > 1. The email is the one used by Satoshi to announce Bitcoin in the first > place. > http://www.metzdowd.com/pipermail/cryptography/2008-October/014810.html > > 2. The email was not spoofed, it actually originated from vistomail's > server. The email headers show the email originated from 190.97.163.93 > and the SPF records show this as an authorised sender for the email. This > does not prove the account wasn't hacked of course, or that the account > might have expired and be re-registered by someone else (vistomail is a > paid for email provider). > > 3. While the email is not signed, and there are a number of PGP keys > listed on key servers for him (to vary addresses), he didnt sign any emails > with any PGP keys. > > It is therefore not possible to outright dismiss the email's authenticity > as the email originates from an authentic source. The only questions is > whether the webmail service was hacked or commandeered somehow. > > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > --089e01493b54ab59fb051d87966d Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello,

I might have a "crazy" simple solution.
From the literature= I read, it seems that Satochi has the keys that would authenticate him usi= ng Bitcoin.

HBO John Oliver's program might ha= ve given me (and hopefully others) the brilliant idea to protect the Bitcoi= n network from the overzealous reach of the politicians. One need to start = a Church, and to start the Church one need funds (121UZ1hDs9MgCHonA8vjXr89D= 8FuDf5c7t) to start.

John Oliver's program on H= BO about Churches (and the hypocrisy of some) was epic and such entity coul= d argue that Bitcoin is a belief system (which it is) and would force the i= ssue at a Federal level under the Church and State separation. - John's= video : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3D7y1xJAVZxXg

<= span class=3D"">

At this time, I am waiting for the License issue to wal= k its course in New York State.

Currently:

  • I am wait= ing for my License to be denied (to protest) and appeal it.
  • =
    Waiting to hear from the License process to appeal the law in general= .
  • Meeting Elected officials (in New York City, NY State, and = France) and educating them on Bitcoin.

Every time we (t= he community) talk about Bitcoin, it can sound like religion; therefore why= not go all the way and do what John Oliver did ? Seed money would help. :)=

Regarding the Fork, from my perspective of a small company, I see th= at like it was with IRC with the ICMP node split. The Church thing is not h= ere to take side but to "try" to protect the Bitcoin.

<= p>We will need to ordain ministers selected after completing prescribed cou= rses of study setup by the developers.

In short I am= asking Satochi to help this church with original coins. If it is a troll, = I am talking to the Dev Community at large to recruit them to ordain the mi= nisters.

Regards,

Theo Chino
https://www.f= acebook.com/groups/557495624389384 (NY State)
http://frenchmorning.com/en/2014/08/18/french-robin-hood-bitcoin-new= -york
(My position on the = fork is still the same as when I ran for a seat of the Foundation; still do= n't have enough information and thing will move faster than I can devot= e the time to read about it.)

On Mon, Aug 17, 2015 at = 1:30 PM, Btc Drak via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.l= inuxfoundation.org> wrote:
For the= record I would like to share my technical analysis of the Satoshi email wh= ich I wrote in a pastebin (http://pastebin.com/Ct5M8fa2) a few days ago.

1. The email is the= one used by Satoshi to announce Bitcoin in the first place.=C2=A0
http://www.metzdowd.com/= pipermail/cryptography/2008-October/014810.html

2. The email was not spoofed,= it actually originated from vistomail's server. The email headers show= the email originated from=C2=A0190.97.163.93 and the SPF records show this as an authorised sen= der for the email. This does not prove the account wasn't hacked= of course, or that the account might have expired and be re-registered by = someone else (vistomail is a paid for email provider).

3. While the email is not = signed, and there are a number of PGP keys listed on key servers for him (t= o vary addresses), he didnt sign any emails with any PGP keys.

It is therefore no= t possible to outright dismiss the email's authenticity as the email or= iginates from an authentic source. The only questions is whether the webmai= l service was hacked or commandeered somehow.



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