Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 36B5CC52 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:59:58 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-vk0-f53.google.com (mail-vk0-f53.google.com [209.85.213.53]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A210E20F for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:59:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-vk0-f53.google.com with SMTP id r69so42975386vke.2 for ; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:59:57 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id :subject:to:cc; bh=YOZQ8z35DOlwUhCpGARaIwkxc5Ufym1o/oE+TNgalMA=; b=pV1+c6E27ClyMkGuCTJIvnQwzy6WNDUZ9iREI4EMPxkS3HAodIOPycGO3MzPNNOPb2 rBDX3XPJdYtxIko4FeDWTnys+Bf/DNXOZSQ3NHjnHemZfmXd2K8DGvNpTN68SDAKkD05 5Wo2E1KhAZBY8X8mPv5BtjLx7gZWXXMo2fmk9EJAozR+opAOBdH1qsbMkC+9ZE3n3xCg xS1JABKr5YH0QhqwBLaUgoL0AinLT4z3if9L2o75COwtpu+EXWIKb8WJj+PE4XjVWufU 6JKlRDb6umSVAqH20mDCbjKoJyNqmSa+AExei+NKSrP1qc7B36ULoLEMXpk8uxixzKJ7 GASA== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=YOZQ8z35DOlwUhCpGARaIwkxc5Ufym1o/oE+TNgalMA=; b=H+Y43mVLQmvgP9rD/unCg/kuE6DenNQBFSFHDfzrlypWCYycGo8HkO4wfTV135c6B+ 63ltvNrUN2A2o3aX/M9enFfkdf5JzzJIzfWKzWJJ5kA2VzpajzvO2Asaq1glYVLRthw7 E3TGpBHl7ZBpp3YDzDpVE/YT5u4RCHLtq9GpLfGnSLoIHrTwA+8OlxzL4Mntq6AAGl4a 4XYGu2z9P/gr2kso4X8bnOzmGXwfIJOZonA7gn/fvOpSaMSIjby2xJJ8gLst2z6KW7vM X3aKMU7b+7JJ/zF8Uw2f7yvcIwb2UDW2iGLavzVrc0X5QiX/7Fn3wlDdP5HtABr6XF45 3+jA== X-Gm-Message-State: AN3rC/72QLeIGwweF464MUQE+2MTYiKgmSiB/cTiRdyp/QODGnh/ot3x GzsVN8Vo41pQpoUskCMvUG3gdTvhDQ== X-Received: by 10.31.135.135 with SMTP id j129mr3391111vkd.134.1492203596455; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:59:56 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: gmaxwell@gmail.com Received: by 10.103.94.132 with HTTP; Fri, 14 Apr 2017 13:59:55 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <2983024.JOGDlViq2a@cherry> References: <1521038.c5zslb6dar@cherry> <2983024.JOGDlViq2a@cherry> From: Gregory Maxwell Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:59:55 +0000 X-Google-Sender-Auth: JeY7wFpFrKb650nAxNGyYGBg0j4 Message-ID: To: Tom Zander Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, FREEMAIL_FROM, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] I do not support the BIP 148 UASF X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 14 Apr 2017 20:59:58 -0000 On Fri, Apr 14, 2017 at 8:34 PM, Tom Zander via bitcoin-dev wrote: > I expected you to know this, but ok, I'll explain. Please stop abusing participants on this list. Your activity is actively driving people off this list. James Hilliard should be commended for correcting your misinformation. > If you depend on one implementation and user configuration for the avoidance > of chain forks, you are going to have a hard time. Anyone can modify their software to produce invalid blocks at any time. If they want to be stupid, they can be stupid. The fact remains that miners who haven't gone and wreaked their software internals will not mine segwit incompatible blocks. Right now _no_ observable has broken node in this way.