Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org (smtp1.osuosl.org [IPv6:2605:bc80:3010::138]) by lists.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B5CF5C001B for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:29:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A5BEA80C5D for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:29:10 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at osuosl.org X-Spam-Flag: NO X-Spam-Score: -1.898 X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.898 tagged_above=-999 required=5 tests=[BAYES_00=-1.9, DKIM_SIGNED=0.1, DKIM_VALID=-0.1, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE=-0.0001, SPF_HELO_NONE=0.001, SPF_NONE=0.001] autolearn=ham autolearn_force=no Authentication-Results: smtp1.osuosl.org (amavisd-new); dkim=pass (2048-bit key) header.d=voskuil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com Received: from smtp1.osuosl.org ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (smtp1.osuosl.org [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id VYtM1LcPunlO for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:29:06 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.8.0 Received: from mail-qk1-x72e.google.com (mail-qk1-x72e.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::72e]) by smtp1.osuosl.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2C4FB80C4E for ; Mon, 6 Sep 2021 07:29:06 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-qk1-x72e.google.com with SMTP id ay33so6058754qkb.10 for ; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 00:29:06 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=voskuil-org.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version:subject:date:message-id :references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=aQpZeVEZKE052zurGmTBwcmEyLWNrN0IUGoz/y8fjaw=; b=HBlzg7OszOxRTf9ZwWd3XiQw93O5kTAxDMaoPUf4bYilcCdc2GXQssB9ys5zBsb2ax hEmZwhI0B2kTUAHURZqkjrM+wZY0SY5XaVr7mk7uk6U6i0Rn6jtov4HSg1fcCGPbsybZ Zu/RfoE+Vbhw89NDT33rLywVLVS/qVB2vgWBxiMu41a3+AW482C1MMBGQ79NTTUAgAPO 0gQV8v95+w73fJ5E42FXPDpzLcW0Mc95gVPDIs8iWnbiAfbxUEQ9uDqF5756P7eRQxbx WihD1K3RCfiB3VeDfnRodce4V0vh4ml6ALMYhqKGBNEvY8jWVY1V+dT32L1OThgea13Z z8Pg== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:content-transfer-encoding:from:mime-version :subject:date:message-id:references:cc:in-reply-to:to; bh=aQpZeVEZKE052zurGmTBwcmEyLWNrN0IUGoz/y8fjaw=; b=k7tHJlXXaB59xDwN/Lnfh97N3DzpdK9uXMjFXx9hax32AROlvmqw+nCB8yFbO9nwJ2 HYF+vLnOpJ9Rcy9J1sXlMogRwUoxApRdNuVlgVzOUKH73Pw76GcxiufYCumKsAs0XT24 e2M59Gi31Wjj+OPsLQ04vQEpiU97w2fTJJy6emuFm16T7oSFwkN1SsBMgeHUYEO6PL+4 m/9zTWHBDBA/6mUEJVdJ8Tzz+fIGLFoJ33ydGupc8sUYqBMPGI/tYx5/xj5qgeDTzxeb o3ko/A95LLAymwKZ9miAW8AmTq3AJE0qWUhGvebbDtJ9eZ5zwkuzOzOxBxXYfss0hFRs Duqw== X-Gm-Message-State: AOAM530lnNGnVQ2eFaskuO3iIRTV1X6JClWys58rL0Y+m2DTof4uALaX 5XHW+KtT26MDNlNwdR6tSWiczg== X-Google-Smtp-Source: ABdhPJwAp9kTYruHdVSxqNHobglodCRmQYLJAY2u/xHdJy3zmA2tRi2TBOjqqaBfNhekecAx9gRGRw== X-Received: by 2002:ae9:ef0d:: with SMTP id d13mr9803741qkg.358.1630913344987; Mon, 06 Sep 2021 00:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Received: from smtpclient.apple ([166.172.56.210]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id v5sm5990472qkh.39.2021.09.06.00.29.03 (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_128_GCM_SHA256 bits=128/128); Mon, 06 Sep 2021 00:29:04 -0700 (PDT) Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable From: Eric Voskuil Mime-Version: 1.0 (1.0) Date: Mon, 6 Sep 2021 09:29:01 +0200 Message-Id: References: <20210906062341.veujnjng5nw4ykv6@ganymede> In-Reply-To: <20210906062341.veujnjng5nw4ykv6@ganymede> To: "David A. Harding" , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion X-Mailer: iPhone Mail (18G82) Cc: Billy Tetrud Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Braidpool: Proposal for a decentralised mining pool X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.15 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 06 Sep 2021 07:29:10 -0000 It doesn=E2=80=99t centralize payment, which ultimately controls transaction= selection (censorship). e > On Sep 6, 2021, at 08:25, David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev wrote: >=20 > =EF=BB=BFOn Wed, Sep 01, 2021 at 11:46:55PM -0700, Billy Tetrud via bitcoi= n-dev wrote: >> How would you compare this to Stratum v2? >=20 > Specifically, I'd be interested in learning what advantages this has > over a centralized mining pool using BetterHash or StratumV2 with > payouts made via LN (perhaps immediately after each submitted share is > validated). >=20 > -Dave > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev