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To: Weikeng Chen Cc: Bitcoin Development Mailing List Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="00000000000025670006308ad236" X-Original-Sender: alicexbtong@gmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@gmail.com header.s=20230601 header.b="Vx33Er/g"; spf=pass (google.com: domain of alicexbtong@gmail.com designates 2607:f8b0:4864:20::331 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=alicexbtong@gmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=NONE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=gmail.com; dara=pass header.i=@googlegroups.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) --00000000000025670006308ad236 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Hi Weikeng, I agree that it has a lot of support among bitcoin developers. No objections for CSFS on [wiki][0]with evaluations from more than 50 bitcoin developers. Co-author of APO, Christian Decker has also expressed his support for it on [twitter][1]. Even Greg Maxwell considers it [useful][2]. [0]: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Covenants_support [1]: https://x.com/Snyke/status/1895880013796556818 [2]: https://freenode.irclog.whitequark.org/bitcoin-wizards/2019-11-28 /dev/fd0 floppy disk guy On Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 7:03 PM Weikeng Chen wrote: > I am writing just to solicit people's opinions on whether CSFS should be > added to signet given that CTV + CSFS combination has recently received a > lot of support. Although CTV has already been on signet for a few years, > CSFS isn't. > > With CTV and CSFS being on the signet also allows part of the LNHANCE to > start experimenting, and it has been discussed that CSFS helps with BitVM > by replacing Winternitz signatures completely with a much lower potential > on-chain data availability overhead. 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Hi Weikeng,

= I agree that it has a lot of support among bitcoin developers. No objection= s for CSFS on [wiki][0]with evaluations from more than 50 bitcoin developer= s.

Co-author of APO, Chr= istian Decker has also expressed his support for it on [twitter][1]. Even G= reg Maxwell considers it [useful][2].

[0]: https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Covenants_support

/dev/fd0
f= loppy disk guy

On Mon, Mar 17, 2025, 7:03 PM Wei= keng Chen <weikeng.chen@= l2iterative.com> wrote:
I am= writing just to solicit people's opinions on whether CSFS should be ad= ded to signet given that CTV + CSFS combination has recently received a lot= of support. Although CTV has already been on signet for a few years, CSFS = isn't.

With CTV and CSFS being on the signet also al= lows part of the LNHANCE to start experimenting, and it has been discussed = that CSFS helps with BitVM by replacing Winternitz signatures completely wi= th a much lower potential on-chain data availability overhead. This also al= lows applications relying on CTV + CSFS to develop further.

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Thanks,
Weikeng

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