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Message-ID: References: <6f6b570f-7f9d-40c0-a771-378eb2c0c701n@googlegroups.com> <842930fb-bede-408a-8380-776d4be4e094n@googlegroups.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Spam_score: -0.0 X-Spam_bar: / X-Original-Sender: aj@erisian.com.au X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; spf=pass (google.com: domain of aj@erisian.com.au designates 172.104.61.193 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=aj@erisian.com.au Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.8 (/) On Fri, Oct 03, 2025 at 02:59:32PM +0000, Andrew Poelstra wrote: > If "it's cheaper to use witness data" were enough of a barrier, nobody > would be using OP_RETURN outputs today except for opentimestamps and > maybe some other super-low-load applications. It isn't chepaer to use witness data until you're publishing more than ~143 bytes of data, due to the overhead of the setup transaction. (It's also not cheaper if you want extremely easy proof of publication of the data) Excluding the couple of months between the topic of increasing the OP_RETURN limit was raised on this list and the increased limit was merged into Bitcoin Core master, there have, in fact, been very few OP_RETURN outputs generated that are above the ~143B size. In particular, between blocks 900k and 915,843 I get: 15,003,149 total OP_RETURN outputs 131 OP_RETURN outputs larger than 83 bytes 81 OP_RETURN outputs of 144 bytes or more 19,707 OP_RETURN outputs with non-zero value cf https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/33453#issuecomment-3341177765 Cheers, aj -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. 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