Return-Path: <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 46597910 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Fri, 26 May 2017 20:05:00 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail.bluematt.me (mail.bluematt.me [192.241.179.72]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C927E1A4 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Fri, 26 May 2017 20:04:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [172.17.0.2] (gw.vpn.bluematt.me [144.217.106.88]) by mail.bluematt.me (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 976C4135E1B; Mon, 12 Jan 1970 06:31:35 +0000 (UTC) To: Rusty Russell <rusty@rustcorp.com.au>, Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org>, Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> References: <CAAS2fgQNPvEuta0KubeDetgYxGhWvdGK10jig0y4ayv0EvZPLw@mail.gmail.com> <87r2ze2833.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> From: Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com> Message-ID: <63d03825-da9b-328d-56b8-0d062f3e0c62@mattcorallo.com> Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 20:04:58 +0000 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Thunderbird/52.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <87r2ze2833.fsf@rustcorp.com.au> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Language: en-US Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00 autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP149 timeout-- why so far in the future? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 26 May 2017 20:05:00 -0000 A more important consideration than segwit's timeout is when code can be released, which will no doubt be several months after SegWit's current timeout. Greg's proposed 6 months seems much more reasonable to me, assuming its still many months after the formal release of code implementing it. Matt On 05/24/17 04:26, Rusty Russell via bitcoin-dev wrote: > Gregory Maxwell via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> > writes: >> Based on how fast we saw segwit adoption, why is the BIP149 timeout so >> far in the future? >> >> It seems to me that it could be six months after release and hit the >> kind of density required to make a stable transition. > > Agreed, I would suggest 16th December, 2017 (otherwise, it should be > 16th January 2018; during EOY holidays seems a bad idea). > > This means this whole debacle has delayed segwit exactly 1 (2) month(s) > beyond what we'd have if it used BIP8 in the first place. > > Cheers, > Rusty. > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >