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When dealing with any of the libraries or API's it's helps to know
what's going on under the hood. I find these pages to be invaluable.

https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_specification
https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script

On 30/04/15 11:28, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n wrote:
> Well, if you're interested in learning java while learning bitcoin,
> probably you should be looking at https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj
> or one of its related project (like the android bitcoin wallet based
> on it).
> There's a getting sterted page: https://bitcoinj.github.io/#getting-sta=
rted
>
> These links my be useful too:
>
> https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-for-developers
> https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-documentation
>
>
> On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Telephone Lemien
> <lemientelephone@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hello,
>> I'm a beginner in Bitcoin and I want to know, what are things those al=
lo me
>> to understand Bitcoin protocol and make progress in java to become a g=
ood
>> developper.
>> Please tell me how I can begin.
>> Best regards
>>
>> 2015-04-30 10:08 GMT+02:00 Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <jtimon@jtimon.cc>:
>>> As Mike says it depends on your interests. But one thing that is almo=
st
>>> always welcomed is improving the tests, and it is unlikely that it co=
nflicts
>>> with other people's PRs (unless they're changing that part of the cod=
e and
>>> need to update those tests. Improving documentation is also good and =
you can
>>> do that while reading the code. Usually I just start cloning, compili=
ng and
>>> changing things as I read, "if I understand this correctly, this chan=
ge
>>> should not break the tests, if I understand this, this other change s=
hould
>>> break the build", etc.
>>> But again, is up to you.
>>>
>>> On Apr 16, 2015 2:34 PM, "Mike Hearn" <mike@plan99.net> wrote:
>>>> Hey Gabe,
>>>>
>>>> That's diving into the deep end for sure! :)
>>>>> What are some current things that are lacking in Bitcoin core? Or a=
m I
>>>>> better off making something else for the ecosystem?
>>>> That depends on your interests.
>>>>
>>>> Many of the highest priority tasks in Bitcoin Core are rather
>>>> complicated, unfortunately, even for people with experience. You can=
 consult
>>>> the issue tracker to get a feel for it.
>>>>
>>>> Alternatively, there are lots of wallet apps out there and plenty of=
 more
>>>> straightforward projects on them. However they may have less of a re=
search
>>>> flavour.
>>>>
>>>>
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    When dealing with any of the libraries or API's it's helps to know
    what's going on under the hood. I find these pages to be invaluable.<=
br>
    <br>
    <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki=
/Transactions">https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transactions</a><br>
    <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki=
/Protocol_specification">https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Protocol_specificatio=
n</a><br>
    <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki=
/Script">https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Script</a><br>
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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 30/04/15 11:28, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n wr=
ote:<br>
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cite=3D"mid:CABm2gDpJqV7YGYCaubBbnSyMO-Q8Nv1w2T4msUbQzYJX_Xpn8A@mail.gmai=
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      <pre wrap=3D"">Well, if you're interested in learning java while le=
arning bitcoin,
probably you should be looking at <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=
=3D"https://github.com/bitcoinj/bitcoinj">https://github.com/bitcoinj/bit=
coinj</a>
or one of its related project (like the android bitcoin wallet based
on it).
There's a getting sterted page: <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D=
"https://bitcoinj.github.io/#getting-started">https://bitcoinj.github.io/=
#getting-started</a>

These links my be useful too:

<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin=
-for-developers">https://bitcoin.org/en/bitcoin-for-developers</a>
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://bitcoin.org/en/develop=
er-documentation">https://bitcoin.org/en/developer-documentation</a>


On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 11:35 AM, Telephone Lemien
<a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href=3D"mailto:lemientelephone@gmail.c=
om">&lt;lemientelephone@gmail.com&gt;</a> wrote:
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        <pre wrap=3D"">Hello,
I'm a beginner in Bitcoin and I want to know, what are things those allo =
me
to understand Bitcoin protocol and make progress in java to become a good
developper.
Please tell me how I can begin.
Best regards

2015-04-30 10:08 GMT+02:00 Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2=
396E" href=3D"mailto:jtimon@jtimon.cc">&lt;jtimon@jtimon.cc&gt;</a>:
</pre>
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          <pre wrap=3D"">
As Mike says it depends on your interests. But one thing that is almost
always welcomed is improving the tests, and it is unlikely that it confli=
cts
with other people's PRs (unless they're changing that part of the code an=
d
need to update those tests. Improving documentation is also good and you =
can
do that while reading the code. Usually I just start cloning, compiling a=
nd
changing things as I read, "if I understand this correctly, this change
should not break the tests, if I understand this, this other change shoul=
d
break the build", etc.
But again, is up to you.

On Apr 16, 2015 2:34 PM, "Mike Hearn" <a class=3D"moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" =
href=3D"mailto:mike@plan99.net">&lt;mike@plan99.net&gt;</a> wrote:
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Hey Gabe,

That's diving into the deep end for sure! :)
</pre>
            <blockquote type=3D"cite">
              <pre wrap=3D"">
What are some current things that are lacking in Bitcoin core? Or am I
better off making something else for the ecosystem?
</pre>
            </blockquote>
            <pre wrap=3D"">
That depends on your interests.

Many of the highest priority tasks in Bitcoin Core are rather
complicated, unfortunately, even for people with experience. You can cons=
ult
the issue tracker to get a feel for it.

Alternatively, there are lots of wallet apps out there and plenty of more
straightforward projects on them. However they may have less of a researc=
h
flavour.


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