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From: Steve Lee <steven.j.lee@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 9 May 2023 19:44:59 -0700
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To: Bryan Bishop <kanzure@gmail.com>, 
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core maintainers and communication on
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Isn't this as simple as anyone (in particular Core project contributors)
can express their view in this PR?
https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604

On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:03=E2=80=AFAM Bryan Bishop via bitcoin-dev <
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:

> On Sun, May 7, 2023 at 12:36=E2=80=AFPM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev =
<
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
>
>> On 2023-05-06 21:03, Michael Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>> > Essentially my concern is going forward current maintainers will
>> > decide which proposed new maintainers to add and which to block.
>>
>> This is how a large percentage of organizations are run.  The current
>> members of a board or other governance group choose who will become a
>> new board member.
>>
>
> Yes but it's unrelated to what Bitcoin Core is-- a volunteer project of
> independent contributors merging different pull requests or patches. The
> github controls are merely because that is how github works. There is als=
o
> a secondary issue of people tending to confuse Bitcoin Core with the
> bitcoin protocol in general:
> https://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/
> https://medium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093c6155c=
d
>
> https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-bitcoin-governance-or-why=
-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-1473270427
>
> - Bryan
> https://twitter.com/kanzure
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<div dir=3D"ltr">Isn&#39;t this as simple as anyone (in particular Core pro=
ject contributors) can express their view in this PR?=C2=A0<a href=3D"https=
://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin/pull/27604">https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoi=
n/pull/27604</a></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=
=3D"gmail_attr">On Mon, May 8, 2023 at 5:03=E2=80=AFAM Bryan Bishop via bit=
coin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitco=
in-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rg=
b(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>On Sun, May 7, 2023 =
at 12:36=E2=80=AFPM David A. Harding via bitcoin-dev &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:=
bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitcoin-dev@lists.=
linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo=
ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left=
:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">On 2023-05-06 21:03, Michael =
Folkson via bitcoin-dev wrote:<br>
&gt; Essentially my concern is going forward current maintainers will<br>
&gt; decide which proposed new maintainers to add and which to block.<br>
<br>
This is how a large percentage of organizations are run.=C2=A0 The current =
<br>
members of a board or other governance group choose who will become a <br>
new board member.<br></blockquote><div><br>Yes but it&#39;s unrelated to wh=
at Bitcoin Core is-- a volunteer project of independent contributors mergin=
g different pull requests or patches. The github controls are merely becaus=
e that is how github works. There is also a secondary issue of people tendi=
ng to confuse Bitcoin Core with the bitcoin protocol in general:<br><a href=
=3D"https://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/" target=3D"_blank">htt=
ps://blog.lopp.net/who-controls-bitcoin-core/</a><br><a href=3D"https://med=
ium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093c6155cd" target=3D"=
_blank">https://medium.com/@bergealex4/the-tao-of-bitcoin-development-ff093=
c6155cd</a><br><a href=3D"https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-b=
itcoin-governance-or-why-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-147327=
0427" target=3D"_blank">https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/a-primer-on-bit=
coin-governance-or-why-developers-aren-t-in-charge-of-the-protocol-14732704=
27</a><br><br></div></div><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr">- Bryan<br><a h=
ref=3D"https://twitter.com/kanzure" target=3D"_blank">https://twitter.com/k=
anzure</a></div></div></div>
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