Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3177A267 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:33:32 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-wi0-f173.google.com (mail-wi0-f173.google.com [209.85.212.173]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 762A9136 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:33:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wibxm9 with SMTP id xm9so171032198wib.1 for ; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:33:30 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to:cc:content-type; bh=8w6ZELXuOp1M1GG2TPqO9ELvwD6pDFdZGa4Sb0zIX9U=; b=hnZ9JIT8VmcgOmJNWiu87MI8mIOXoRCkQABsynYtyplUDbSdQVVX0+64EixBZxmp9j bgQp34hCYlA3RAhe+ecYqthl7v6tKJ7oh4JYFhjE8c9f6ZrIaN6xLtTVB2/bW2GQxpws IEJHq3SEJFaVG+C6QKhWMKtnc9E3/cjF/nyxJf7C0vZN510uBU2EtbsDQsmETo98FGPX jkc3SDq/8p0ZA26AxydHoEvcjylTbPj2cBBOxx3Ugji+doHXl88Td/nl2Wv1DaQNj8RN 1e/nKEeLhxuLPQhWeOT/wjEjwucTtp+tot6N6F9TxjKhYP5sLLkeNrlgQ25Ez2R6zo2J 6twQ== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlwnBUqwAQyRd6guxRzByR9IyxCr6aQpcOcBtQ4fAbPhnifkpcdq05ZMZDjqTsSXYHJWsLG MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.180.21.175 with SMTP id w15mr9122354wie.58.1438104810100; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:33:30 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.95.168 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:33:29 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.194.95.168 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:33:29 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <55B7B17A.6030701@thinlink.com> References: <55B113AF.40500@thinlink.com> <55B1DB84.6070001@thinlink.com> <55B2C13C.9040708@thinlink.com> <55B7B17A.6030701@thinlink.com> Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 19:33:29 +0200 Message-ID: From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= To: Tom Harding Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b6d9bac5b31a3051bf2de94 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Bitcoin Core and hard forks X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2015 17:33:32 -0000 --047d7b6d9bac5b31a3051bf2de94 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 That's not what I said. We don't seem able to communicate with each other efficiently, probably my fault since English is not my native language. But I don't want to use more of my time (or yours) in this discussion, since it's clearly unproductive. On Jul 28, 2015 6:45 PM, "Tom Harding" wrote: > Jorge, > > We obviously disagree fundamentally on the role of societal adoption, in > the system that Satoshi designed. > > Adoption is well ahead of Satoshi's schedule, and the measure of this is > the exchange rate. It is at once an imperfect measure, and one of the most > perfect markets that has ever existed. > > As long as hardware, electric power, and bandwidth are priced in fiat > currency, the exchange rate is a critical variable to security, capacity, > and other metrics of network health. > > It's not inconsistent that you consider the exchange rate irrelevant. In > fact it explains why you believe that Satoshi's timetable for transitioning > to fee incentives can be summarily tossed aside and replaced with something > you think is better. > > Here's an English saying I just invented. A bunch of geniuses can do a > lot more damage than one fool. > > --047d7b6d9bac5b31a3051bf2de94 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

That's not what I said. We don't seem able to commun= icate with each other efficiently, probably my fault since English is not m= y native language. But I don't want to use more of my time (or yours) i= n this discussion, since it's clearly unproductive.

On Jul 28, 2015 6:45 PM, "Tom Harding"= <tomh@thinlink.com> wrote:<= br type=3D"attribution">
Jorge,

We obviously disagree fundamentally on the role of societal adoption, in th= e system that Satoshi designed.

Adoption is well ahead of Satoshi's schedule, and the measure of this i= s the exchange rate.=C2=A0 It is at once an imperfect measure, and one of t= he most perfect markets that has ever existed.

As long as hardware, electric power, and bandwidth are priced in fiat curre= ncy, the exchange rate is a critical variable to security, capacity, and ot= her metrics of network health.

It's not inconsistent that you consider the exchange rate irrelevant.= =C2=A0 In fact it explains why you believe that Satoshi's timetable for= transitioning to fee incentives can be summarily tossed aside and replaced= with something you think is better.

Here's an English saying I just invented.=C2=A0 A bunch of geniuses can= do a lot more damage than one fool.

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