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Message-ID: In-Reply-To: <2584bf15-8e7f-4d89-8987-f41dd06b2824n@googlegroups.com> References: <2584bf15-8e7f-4d89-8987-f41dd06b2824n@googlegroups.com> Feedback-ID: 38540639:user:proton X-Pm-Message-ID: 3f375c22a5752bfa8d03a484d96f175d4acd9308 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Original-Sender: moonsettler@protonmail.com X-Original-Authentication-Results: gmr-mx.google.com; dkim=pass header.i=@protonmail.com header.s=protonmail3 header.b=gtUZsDC1; spf=pass (google.com: domain of moonsettler@protonmail.com designates 185.70.40.130 as permitted sender) smtp.mailfrom=moonsettler@protonmail.com; dmarc=pass (p=QUARANTINE sp=QUARANTINE dis=NONE) header.from=protonmail.com X-Original-From: moonsettler Reply-To: moonsettler Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -1.0 (-) Hi Weikeng, CSFS is on signet. All the LNhance opcodes are on mutinynet. https://github.com/lnhance/mutinynet-bitcoin/tree/mutinynet-cat-ln-hance https://faucet.mutinynet.com/ [signet] signetchallenge=3D512102f7561d208dd9ae99bf497273e16f389bdbd6c4742ddb8e6b216= e64fa2928ad8f51ae addnode=3D45.79.52.207:38333 dnsseed=3D0 signetblocktime=3D30 BR, moonsettler Sent with Proton Mail secure email. On Monday, March 17th, 2025 at 4:38 AM, Weikeng Chen wrote: > I am writing just to solicit people's opinions on whether CSFS should be = added to signet given that CTV + CSFS combination has recently received a l= ot of support. Although CTV has already been on signet for a few years, CSF= S isn't. > With CTV and CSFS being on the signet also allows part of the LNHANCE to = start experimenting, and it has been discussed that CSFS helps with BitVM b= y replacing Winternitz signatures completely with a much lower potential on= -chain data availability overhead. 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