Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A80E5B3D for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2015 05:22:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail148154.authsmtp.co.uk (outmail148154.authsmtp.co.uk [62.13.148.154]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id DA1AC7C for ; Sat, 4 Jul 2015 05:22:18 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c235.authsmtp.com (mail-c235.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.235]) by punt15.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t645MEPH092645; Sat, 4 Jul 2015 06:22:14 +0100 (BST) Received: from savin.petertodd.org (75-119-251-161.dsl.teksavvy.com [75.119.251.161]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t645MAan061157 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Sat, 4 Jul 2015 06:22:12 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 4 Jul 2015 01:22:09 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Raystonn Message-ID: <20150704052209.GB12225@savin.petertodd.org> References: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: a07e5942-220c-11e5-b397-002590a15da7 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdgYUEkAYAgsB AmMbW1JeUl97WGA7 bA9PbARUfEhLXhtr VklWR1pVCwQmRRoF A2NvA0dycQRHfXk+ ZEJlWngVDUR9IEN0 RkxJF28GNnphaTUa TRJbfgRJcANIexZF O1F6ACIKLwdSbGoL FQ4vNDcwO3BTJTpg Ci8KN1FaRkhDHzgi ThQDEX0lGUoORD57 IwErYkIbVGwwChts eUUgXlYRLx4VDBY2 X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1023:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 75.119.251.161/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Fork of invalid blocks due to BIP66 violations X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sat, 04 Jul 2015 05:22:19 -0000 --i0/AhcQY5QxfSsSZ Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Fri, Jul 03, 2015 at 10:17:38PM -0700, Raystonn wrote: Yeah, I was really surprised when I found out today that bitcoinj doesn't implement any of the soft-fork code. There's no excuse for not doing that frankly. :( >

SPV clients are at risk in scenarios like this. We should= encourage them to check node versions against the minimum required for saf= ety. This check should be upgraded when new BIPs go into effect. It won't= help against malicious nodes. But it will help in cases such as today's.<= br> >

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On 3 Jul 2015 8:17 pm, Gregory Maxwell <gma= xwell@gmail.com> wrote:
>=20 >=20 >=20 >
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On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 3:11 AM, Raystonn <raystonn@hotmail.co= m> wrote:
> > We need some analysis on why this has happened.=A0 It appears the la= rger hashrate is violating BIP66.=A0 Thus it appears the network is rejecti= ng this BIP, though potentially accidentally.=A0 If this is an accident, ho= w is such a large portion of hashrate forking, and what can we do to avoid = this in the future?
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> A near majority of the hashrate on the network appears to be SPV mining.<= br /> >
> Btcnuggets was a non-upgraded miner that produced an invalid block
> after the lock in and f2pool and antpool have been extending it.
> Fortunately their extension contains no transactions (an artifact of
> SPV mining).=A0 Obviously a complete understanding is going to take some<= br /> > time;=A0 though I would note that this general failure mode was one we > were aware of and is part of the reason the treshold is so high.
>
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>=20 >
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