Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <1240902@gmail.com>) id 1YzNTz-0008F5-7x for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:02:15 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 74.125.82.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.43; envelope-from=1240902@gmail.com; helo=mail-wg0-f43.google.com; Received: from mail-wg0-f43.google.com ([74.125.82.43]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YzNTv-0004b9-Oj for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:02:15 +0000 Received: by wgez8 with SMTP id z8so110875961wge.0 for ; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 04:02:05 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.109.229 with SMTP id hv5mr40946682wjb.119.1433156525712; Mon, 01 Jun 2015 04:02:05 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.208.69 with HTTP; Mon, 1 Jun 2015 04:02:05 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <554BE0E1.5030001@bluematt.me> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 19:02:05 +0800 Message-ID: From: Chun Wang <1240902@gmail.com> To: Mike Hearn Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -1.4 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (1240902[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.2 FREEMAIL_ENVFROM_END_DIGIT Envelope-from freemail username ends in digit (1240902[at]gmail.com) -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1YzNTv-0004b9-Oj Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Block Size Increase Requirements X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 01 Jun 2015 11:02:15 -0000 On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 6:13 PM, Mike Hearn wrote: > Whilst it would be nice if miners in China can carry on forever regardless > of their internet situation, nobody has any inherent "right" to mine if they > can't do the job - if miners in China can't get the trivial amounts of > bandwidth required through their firewall and end up being outcompeted then > OK, too bad, we'll have to carry on without them. > > But I'm not sure why it should be a big deal. They can always run a node on > a server in Taiwan and connect the hardware to it via a VPN or so. Ignorant. You seem do not understand the current situation. We suffered from orphans a lot when we started in 2013. It is now your turn. If Western miners do not find a China-based VPN into China, or if Western pools do not manage to improve their connectivity to China, or run a node in China, it would be them to have higher orphans, not us. Because we have 50%+.