Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <ricardojdfilipe@gmail.com>) id 1YzD7W-0007lB-MX for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 31 May 2015 23:58:22 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.213.177 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.213.177; envelope-from=ricardojdfilipe@gmail.com; helo=mail-ig0-f177.google.com; Received: from mail-ig0-f177.google.com ([209.85.213.177]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1YzD7U-0002kU-Uz for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 31 May 2015 23:58:22 +0000 Received: by igbpi8 with SMTP id pi8so49526450igb.1 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:58:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.107.165.210 with SMTP id o201mr23750121ioe.2.1433116693651; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:58:13 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.36.20.207 with HTTP; Sun, 31 May 2015 16:58:13 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CAM7BtUr3msGfp_XiBc-D6=G+b834YhnxVQ_d59EJUE=avxpL1g@mail.gmail.com> References: <554BE0E1.5030001@bluematt.me> <CAFzgq-xByQ1E_33_m3UpXQFUkGc78HKnA=7XXMshANDuTkNsvA@mail.gmail.com> <CABsx9T0kbRe31LMwk499MQUw225f5GGd67GfhXBezHmDqxkioA@mail.gmail.com> <CAFzgq-z5WCznGhbOexS0XESNGAVauw45ewEV-1eMij7yDT61=Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAFzgq-zTybEQyGz0nq90u5n5JZcJzxQS_XKaTpr5POJi-tHM6A@mail.gmail.com> <CABsx9T2L5bi-c63-KqSifOMeNayUWSPo0_Hx8VjMR_4=kC3ixg@mail.gmail.com> <CAE28kUT61qYxqV0mOqw5Dan=eMiCvnG2SnsAeWzOWTxwLydyeQ@mail.gmail.com> <CABsx9T2hfpts5y_M6PdDcxmq9Q2smesJ0Nmp9a9iyPD_MoPC9g@mail.gmail.com> <CAE28kUTZV3YsaSCX2d5YwLetnf=f+bOWGrwxLXdZFywTZ=+Pjg@mail.gmail.com> <CALC81CNq-GK5q6R4bmgHL5_Ej2+cZrtQMMLVmuhvMxkZokM3hQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAM7BtUr3msGfp_XiBc-D6=G+b834YhnxVQ_d59EJUE=avxpL1g@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 1 Jun 2015 00:58:13 +0100 Message-ID: <CALC81CMR_9KsCa4rr-YbVtXLLA81Sn1RtgUEuaaj5qgPUHUUuw@mail.gmail.com> From: Ricardo Filipe <ricardojdfilipe@gmail.com> To: Pindar Wong <pindar.wong@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (ricardojdfilipe[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1YzD7U-0002kU-Uz Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: Block Size Increase Requirements X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 31 May 2015 23:58:22 -0000 2015-06-01 0:40 GMT+01:00 Pindar Wong <pindar.wong@gmail.com>: > > > On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:23 AM, Ricardo Filipe <ricardojdfilipe@gmail.com> > wrote: >> >> He also said that the equation for miners has many variables, as it >> should. There is no disadvantage if the network speed is the same >> between the miners. > > > Hi, > > Is that an assumption? no, let me rephrase: The disadvantage alex refers to only exists if miners do not have the same network speed. > >> If there is a difference in network speed, the >> miner is incentivized to invest in their network infrastructure. > > > Perhaps it's best not to assume that investing in Internet network > infrastructure's a free or open market everywhere. Just like easy ASIC access, low price electricity, etc are not a free and open market. > > p. > >> >> >> 2015-05-31 23:55 GMT+01:00 Alex Mizrahi <alex.mizrahi@gmail.com>: >> >> Yes, if you are on a slow network then you are at a (slight) >> >> disadvantage. >> >> So? >> > >> > >> > Chun mentioned that his pool is on a slow network, and thus bigger >> > blocks >> > give it an disadvantage. (Orphan rate is proportional to block size.) >> > You said that no, on contrary those who make big blocks have a >> > disadvantage. >> > And now you say that yes, this disadvantage exist. >> > >> > Did you just lie to Chun? >> > >> > >> > >> > ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Bitcoin-development mailing list >> > Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >> > https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development >> > >> >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> _______________________________________________ >> Bitcoin-development mailing list >> Bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net >> https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development > >