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See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (ewillbefull[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1V4gCE-0003lp-JW Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Payment Protocol: BIP 70, 71, 72 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: <bitcoin-development.lists.sourceforge.net> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_name=bitcoin-development> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/bitcoin-development>, <mailto:bitcoin-development-request@lists.sourceforge.net?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2013 23:52:47 -0000 --047d7b5d8815bfba5d04e2d76b5e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 P2SH addresses support exotic transaction outputs, but not all exotic transactions. This payment protocol can allow for combining multiple outputs. A PaymentRequest for sending money to multiple parties, for example, could not fall back to a single address. On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Gavin Andresen <gavinandresen@gmail.com>wrote: > On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:30 AM, E willbefull <ewillbefull@gmail.com> > wrote: > > I think it's important to expect PaymentRequest-only bitcoin URIs in the > > future. Some types of payments (exotic transactions) may not make sense > to > > have a single fallback address. > > P2SH addresses already support all exotic transactions. > > > Or, a page with a bitcoin URI link may be > > relying on a separate service provider to assemble the transaction. > > Do you mean assemble the PaymentRequest message? Because the payment > transaction will always be created by the customer's wallet software. > > IF PaymentRequests take over the world and we get 100% wallet software > support, then I'd be happy to write another BIP that says that a > bitcoin: URI can be just bitcoin:?request=http... > > -- > -- > Gavin Andresen > --047d7b5d8815bfba5d04e2d76b5e Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>P2SH addresses support exotic transaction outputs, bu= t not all exotic transactions. This payment protocol can allow for combinin= g multiple outputs. A PaymentRequest for sending money to multiple parties,= for example, could not fall back to a single address.</div> </div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Wed,= Jul 31, 2013 at 5:38 PM, Gavin Andresen <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"m= ailto:gavinandresen@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gavinandresen@gmail.com</a= >></span> wrote:<br> <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1p= x #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div class=3D"im">On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 9:3= 0 AM, E willbefull <<a href=3D"mailto:ewillbefull@gmail.com">ewillbefull= @gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br> > I think it's important to expect PaymentRequest-only bitcoin URIs = in the<br> > future. Some types of payments (exotic transactions) may not make sens= e to<br> > have a single fallback address.<br> <br> </div>P2SH addresses already support all exotic transactions.<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> > Or, a page with a bitcoin URI link may be<br> > relying on a separate service provider to assemble the transaction.<br= > <br> </div>Do you mean assemble the PaymentRequest message? =A0Because the payme= nt<br> transaction will always be created by the customer's wallet software.<b= r> <br> IF PaymentRequests take over the world and we get 100% wallet software<br> support, then I'd be happy to write another BIP that says that a<br> bitcoin: URI can be just bitcoin:?request=3Dhttp...<br> <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br> --<br> --<br> Gavin Andresen<br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br></div> --047d7b5d8815bfba5d04e2d76b5e--