Received: from sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.191] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1YxQ6O-0002wY-1P for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 27 May 2015 01:25:48 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.149.43 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.149.43; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail149043.authsmtp.co.uk; Received: from outmail149043.authsmtp.co.uk ([62.13.149.43]) by sog-mx-1.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1YxQ6M-0005K8-OZ for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Wed, 27 May 2015 01:25:48 +0000 Received: from mail-c235.authsmtp.com (mail-c235.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.235]) by punt17.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t4R1PPsW068847; Wed, 27 May 2015 02:25:25 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck (214.200.212.162.static.addr.dsl4u.ca [162.212.200.214] (may be forged)) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t4R1PMwq095681 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 27 May 2015 02:25:24 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 26 May 2015 21:25:21 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: s7r Message-ID: <20150527012520.GA7618@muck> References: <20150525212638.GB12430@savin.petertodd.org> <20150526001034.GF21367@savin.petertodd.org> <475dfb44d4e54649839e6438ad748b59@airmail.cc> <5564E5B8.3090802@sky-ip.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <5564E5B8.3090802@sky-ip.org> X-Server-Quench: 401435fa-040f-11e5-b396-002590a15da7 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aAdMdAUUFVQNAgsB AmMbW1ZeUlh7W2Y7 agxTcwdcYFRMXwV0 UklNXVdaExppT1gF ZB9+L14zdwxDfnZx K09mWXQVWER7cUV4 FB9JFWkGM3phaTUa TRJbfgVJcANIexZF O1F6ACIKLwdSbGoL NQ4vNDcwO3BTJTpY RgYVKF8UXXNDNTkn W1gZFCsuG0IeDy8i ZwE9K1gTVFwcKkE7 OlZkU0NdPRIfTm8W RBkIUXcUTwAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1023:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 162.212.200.214/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record X-Headers-End: 1YxQ6M-0005K8-OZ Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Cost savings by using replace-by-fee, 30-90% X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 27 May 2015 01:25:48 -0000 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, May 27, 2015 at 12:29:28AM +0300, s7r wrote: > What is wrong with the man testing some ideas on his custom branch? This > is how improvements come to life. I saw in the BIPs some really > interesting ideas and nice brainstorming which came from Peter Todd. >=20 > Now, my question, if replace by fee doesn't allow me to change the > inputs or the outputs, I can only add outputs... what can I do with this > feature? If I sent a tx and want to replace it with a higher fee one, > the higher fee one can only have maybe additional change addresses or > another payment, if the inputs suffice? Do we have any real use cases? You're a bit mistaken there: standard RBF lets you change anything, and FSS RBF lets you modify inputs and add outputs and/or make the value of outputs higher. > P.S. is it planned to include this by default in bitcoin core 10.0.3 or > it will remain just on Peter's branch? Any significant change to mempool policy like RBF is very unlikely to be incorporated in the Bitcoin Core v0.10.x branch, simply because it'd be too large a change for a minor, mostly bugfix, release. Having said that, I already maintain a standard RBF branch for v0.10.x, and have been asked by a major minor to backport FSS RBF for v0.10.x as well. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 00000000000000000b9e6c1ce35e6e06c01b1f381840bcd9297f307cb1e6aae8 --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJVZRz+XhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwYjllNmMxY2UzNWU2ZTA2YzAxYjFmMzgxODQwYmNkOTI5 N2YzMDdjYjFlNmFhZTgvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQwIXyHOf0udy2IAgAhM7eeG4fFzwnFftqzXjTxdnJ yYSNnZJG3qmjv05RiQTC9jHHHPouJaXdRJHOmQozmCoRaBArKWSfA7VhTdzJNa+s YODz8+2ehs0Pk40hqBcoxeXjSGBoC68K4+HGMotgOOdTZgEE6YsyIonVYRaddFSU HQpzGNRS59zvwYupTtzq8vvwxPUDIM3lXnHhKvzJ1e0rja5MTOZsdUU6ZmiGGpmb BnRKNr8lgghOvVD5/DXWUe6oB4oGZhKqgESxueBGAW+JEn6akglQ1kzr9tfLhA06 F7MLSn1piPgRtJ/bFVgu1ahgGDkdpEcUHdc95Xqq1cncucgDGPDu+aR6GJfqFw== =vm+L -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --ZGiS0Q5IWpPtfppv--