Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 95904411 for ; Thu, 12 May 2016 02:31:35 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-wm0-f43.google.com (mail-wm0-f43.google.com [74.125.82.43]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CA0BC115 for ; Thu, 12 May 2016 02:31:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f43.google.com with SMTP id a17so111851151wme.0 for ; Wed, 11 May 2016 19:31:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to; bh=kFNig7XDlCv4w6PDSDIhqBmYE4Tg9pNjbdHjv5kx8j8=; b=x3Hd2ZHaTjEV5JMf8zkEvMeaoNSVCbhK02b8Ai9YEUEjKEe69cTbL4W24qxNZTVb9U DpjwcEgGzr/DJoxcOLJ3oZx+hUxigosHbRSs8X9WM26yy1CJ9P+aWWZNzxUxktb3As/G 65c002CK8HBaAIXceC5MsnoAheeWnH/vIs8c3NheKwZ3lOvwkhav/vwacUPWF29VBZfT dKjDUywbONp9ud+G+/sB6f2/PrH6h0DsUXyUaokur3+a08TFhTzU7FP3NmfjisJrieGx cJHtaL86ip5PQruqZ6Vz///+bVCEfgd9BV+Ce5KDc4nDUDYTQB6Fv3Ljws4wD0PcyOvF xY0g== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date :message-id:subject:from:to; bh=kFNig7XDlCv4w6PDSDIhqBmYE4Tg9pNjbdHjv5kx8j8=; b=CeF3p1CcpygQbWmAD1kE9Ic81b7osB/nti6QcY8PHZMH/C6qUV6YsrwFu4aA56Alk7 ekTBuTpUckyTxJc44NZlgJVbjoPJeBnndrKS2RlMKFGiuYfBUHm2K3TD8uSWX+KeXWdN E76tKRpRwXS+SK9Vy6q4ovg5pUW3GrK7LAuqI6T1xNIAJm8VEzg73MvIdee0V0FBqEcJ fn3KsOXrWOUYXgazc54tbU9sY6/bVqwTpR0gzgrbjxsSNQAB5AQYrSxeFqzc8pnVe/KP 01OGO20LVZUz4AVrL/oCGkAUj4B3d5r2p4ehG3B/DVgZvMy5+mvrEjEoIWvaLBaKVaB1 wdHQ== X-Gm-Message-State: AOPr4FV8M3celAvSgNK2nJi2/GYZqPzmUpF1mA/KazsFkxxNGlDI+mcqHlAH/m1hH8SIi/TR8kLcNscZ3XYJIA== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.194.3.84 with SMTP id a20mr6814466wja.77.1463020293488; Wed, 11 May 2016 19:31:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.28.234.135 with HTTP; Wed, 11 May 2016 19:31:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <7a9bf5ac-5d23-c7cd-e297-f7dd6503919b@thinlink.com> References: <20160510185728.GA1149@fedora-21-dvm> <7a9bf5ac-5d23-c7cd-e297-f7dd6503919b@thinlink.com> Date: Wed, 11 May 2016 21:31:33 -0500 Message-ID: From: Allen Piscitello To: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b343d6ee4850605329bf4c0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 12 May 2016 10:12:53 +0000 Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Making AsicBoost irrelevant X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 12 May 2016 02:31:35 -0000 --047d7b343d6ee4850605329bf4c0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 And anyone who would have discovered it independently would have been free to implement it. That's the issue, not that there's an optimization. On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > On 5/10/2016 2:43 PM, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev wrote: > > > > If we change the protocol then the message to the ecosystem is that > > ASIC optimizations should be kept secret. > > Further to that point, if THIS optimization had been kept secret, nobody > would be talking about doing anything, as with countless other > optimizations. > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > --047d7b343d6ee4850605329bf4c0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
And anyone who would have discovered it independently woul= d have been free to implement it.=C2=A0 That's the issue, not that ther= e's an optimization.

On Wed, May 11, 2016 at 9:27 PM, Tom Harding via bitcoin-dev <= span dir=3D"ltr"><bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> w= rote:
On 5/10/2016 2:43 = PM, Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev wrote:
>
> If we change the protocol then the message to the ecosystem is that > ASIC optimizations should be kept secret.

Further to that point, if THIS optimization had been kept secret, no= body
would be talking about doing anything, as with countless other
optimizations.

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