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Date: Sun, 20 Oct 2013 12:00:43 +0200
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From: Wladimir <laanwj@gmail.com>
To: Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>
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Cc: Bitcoin Development <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] A critique of bitcoin open source
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On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com> wrote:

> Since much discussion didn't materialize I went and gave it a
> technical once over, posting to the forum.


At least I now understand where he got the idea of bitcoin devs being a
bunch of paranoid, anti-authoritarian nutjobs :-) I've been on a lot of
forums in my life but never encountered one with such selfish, unhelpful,
trolling, complaining sods (well maybe apart from 15-year old gamers).

Nick couldn't have got that idea from discussion on this mailing list or
#bitcoin-dev. Please don't send anyone to that jungle. People shouldn't get
the idea that that the forum is our development community, or even endorsed
by the devs.

As for the real developer community, I haven't noticed so much
unfriendliness or closedness. But the core devs are with very few people
(certainly compared to the number of users) and reviewing and testing takes
time so pull requests, proposals and such can linger for a while. Which can
indeed be frustrating.

Wladimir

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<div dir=3D"ltr">On Sun, Oct 20, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir=
=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:gmaxwell@gmail.com" target=3D"_blank">gmaxwe=
ll@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=
=3D"gmail_quote">
<blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-=
left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;p=
adding-left:1ex">Since much discussion didn&#39;t materialize I went and ga=
ve it a<br>

technical once over, posting to the forum. =C2=A0</blockquote><div><br></di=
v><div>At least I now understand where he got the idea of bitcoin devs bein=
g a=C2=A0</div>bunch of paranoid, anti-authoritarian nutjobs :-) I&#39;ve b=
een on a lot of forums in my life but never encountered one with such selfi=
sh, unhelpful, trolling, complaining sods (well maybe apart from 15-year ol=
d gamers).</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div></div><div =
class=3D"gmail_quote">Nick couldn&#39;t have got that idea from discussion =
on this mailing list or #bitcoin-dev. Please don&#39;t send anyone to that =
jungle. People shouldn&#39;t get the idea that that the forum is our develo=
pment community, or even endorsed by the devs.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">As for the =
real developer community, I haven&#39;t noticed so much unfriendliness or c=
losedness. But the core devs are with very few people (certainly compared t=
o the number of users) and reviewing and testing takes time so pull request=
s, proposals and such can linger for a while. Which can indeed be frustrati=
ng.</div>
<div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote">Wladimir<br=
></div><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><br></div></div></div>

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