Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-3.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from <voisine@gmail.com>) id 1Z40kU-0006t3-7y for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 05:46:26 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.220.176 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.176; envelope-from=voisine@gmail.com; helo=mail-qk0-f176.google.com; Received: from mail-qk0-f176.google.com ([209.85.220.176]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1Z40kS-0002Ck-4P for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Sun, 14 Jun 2015 05:46:26 +0000 Received: by qkhg32 with SMTP id g32so37816579qkh.0 for <bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net>; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:46:18 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.55.24.18 with SMTP id j18mr45877019qkh.60.1434260778597; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:46:18 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.140.91.37 with HTTP; Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:46:18 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <557D02F4.7090001@riseup.net> References: <COL402-EAS423BB81E15B25CD20B11B10CDBA0@phx.gbl> <557D02F4.7090001@riseup.net> Date: Sat, 13 Jun 2015 22:46:18 -0700 Message-ID: <CACq0ZD7FujgZ3huyu50+LG7FM2ayRoQz_6cukQMix6MDYpuC7g@mail.gmail.com> From: Aaron Voisine <voisine@gmail.com> To: odinn <odinn.cyberguerrilla@riseup.net> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1144183a3947a7051873dc4e X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. 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But that's the way it is. If you don't like consensus based > systems (or decentralized, distributed systems) this is probably the > wrong space for you. > If consensus must be reached to make any changes, that just means that changes of anything more than trivial consequence simply can't be made. Extreme bias toward the status-quo will only work if external factors affecting the network also remain static. Aaron Voisine co-founder and CEO breadwallet.com --001a1144183a3947a7051873dc4e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blo= ckquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left= -width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;paddi= ng-left:1ex">Yes, it does bother (some) people to see the consensus based s= ystem<br> because of the difficulties that can be associated with implementing<br> it.=C2=A0 But that's the way it is.=C2=A0 If you don't like consens= us based<br> systems (or decentralized, distributed systems) this is probably the<br> wrong space for you.<br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>If consensus must = be reached to make any changes, that just means that changes of anything mo= re than trivial consequence simply can't be made. Extreme bias toward t= he status-quo will only work if external factors affecting the network also= remain static.</div><div><div class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><= div dir=3D"ltr"><div><br>Aaron Voisine</div><div>co-founder and CEO<br></di= v></div></div></div></div><div><a href=3D"http://breadwallet.com/" target= =3D"_blank">breadwallet.com</a></div></div></div></div> --001a1144183a3947a7051873dc4e--