Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1Vbq6o-0003m0-GW for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:08:14 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of petertodd.org designates 62.13.149.75 as permitted sender) client-ip=62.13.149.75; envelope-from=pete@petertodd.org; helo=outmail149075.authsmtp.net; Received: from outmail149075.authsmtp.net ([62.13.149.75]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) id 1Vbq6n-0004sE-77 for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:08:14 +0000 Received: from mail-c237.authsmtp.com (mail-c237.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.237]) by punt14.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2) with ESMTP id r9VB85tG007186; Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:08:05 GMT Received: from savin (76-10-178-109.dsl.teksavvy.com [76.10.178.109]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id r9VB7xr7002697 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:08:02 GMT Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 07:07:58 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: slush Message-ID: <20131031110758.GA9591@savin> References: <526BDEC2.2090709@gmx.de> <52721F47.30206@gmx.de> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: b60206b3-421c-11e3-94fa-002590a135d3 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdQMUF1YAAgsB AmUbWlVeUFV7WWA7 bAxPbAVDY01GQQRq WVdMSlVNFUsqCHpz AVZcVRlydQNPfzBx ZE5jWD4JWkR4dUAv QVNQF2xVeGZhPWMC WUQOJh5UcAFPdx8U a1N6AHBDAzANdhES HhM4ODE3eDlSNilR RRkIIFQOdA4zBDkk QAsLGX0zGgUfSj03 JhcrYnQ9JB5JaRRa X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1024:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 76.10.178.109/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Score: -1.5 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 URIBL_BLOCKED ADMINISTRATOR NOTICE: The query to URIBL was blocked. See http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/DnsBlocklists#dnsbl-block for more information. [URIs: petertodd.org] X-Headers-End: 1Vbq6n-0004sE-77 Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Proposal to replace BIP0039 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2013 11:08:14 -0000 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, Oct 31, 2013 at 11:41:27AM +0100, slush wrote: > To be specific, we (in cooperation with / inspired by Timo Hanke) develop= ed > method how to prove that the seed generated by Trezor has been created > using combination of computer-provided entropy and device-provided entrop= y, > without leaking full private information to other computer, just because = we > want Trezor to be blackbox-testable and fully deterministic (seed > generation is currently the only operation which uses any source of RNG). I just wanted to say the fact that you're making key generation auditable, and using deterministic signatures, is a clear sign that you guys know what you're doing. Hearing this makes me a lot more confident that the Trezor will prove to be a secure way to store my Bitcoins and my pre-order will prove to be money well spent. Kudos! --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 000000000000000784d399e7c1d1e8f2fc953c6939b115699a1ee05029a59bc9 --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.12 (GNU/Linux) iQGrBAEBCACVBQJScjoOXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDc4NGQzOTllN2MxZDFlOGYyZmM5NTNjNjkzOWIxMTU2OTlh MWVlMDUwMjlhNTliYzkvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkfvQvAf/Ul23kNCRpFmGtUsgj3JUrk77 nQDXThsxIMtMG8FU2NhOWJZPTFTAYxriMnmtNrc6XGjUaiTHn3JAzeFiAzn3xbpd 1TSqE5AahCYw+wbMySqQi52lxpn/SJ0zR0pmMkFn0WgGq1c4QKZOIGw7lC5OZrdq 3gwJv6sCwkBCIeNcvhJUt8c9vTiW22WGI2qQAuFH/JljwmlXME3fXr/jGAJoZpBN QyQfKYhn+2jCxKT2/oxOZHs2kkVMFMUwZXiDm7Dpxdu/Heba+JFV3csl/d2xuN8C CAqT5yM00BhGAY7VrtBccJGlfQ+TNFDMjO5ubEyTDznpRRBj79ptfGDQEyp6yA== =Oug7 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --EVF5PPMfhYS0aIcm--