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MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="----=_Part_246642_1003251193.1742182683693" X-Original-Sender: weikeng.chen@l2iterative.com Precedence: list Mailing-list: list bitcoindev@googlegroups.com; contact bitcoindev+owners@googlegroups.com List-ID: X-Google-Group-Id: 786775582512 List-Post: , List-Help: , List-Archive: , List-Unsubscribe: , X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) ------=_Part_246642_1003251193.1742182683693 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_246643_1419188956.1742182683693" ------=_Part_246643_1419188956.1742182683693 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" I am writing just to solicit people's opinions on whether CSFS should be added to signet given that CTV + CSFS combination has recently received a lot of support. Although CTV has already been on signet for a few years, CSFS isn't. With CTV and CSFS being on the signet also allows part of the LNHANCE to start experimenting, and it has been discussed that CSFS helps with BitVM by replacing Winternitz signatures completely with a much lower potential on-chain data availability overhead. This also allows applications relying on CTV + CSFS to develop further. Thanks, Weikeng -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Bitcoin Development Mailing List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to bitcoindev+unsubscribe@googlegroups.com. To view this discussion visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/bitcoindev/2584bf15-8e7f-4d89-8987-f41dd06b2824n%40googlegroups.com. ------=_Part_246643_1419188956.1742182683693 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I am writing just to solicit people's opinions on whether CSFS should be ad= ded to signet given that CTV + CSFS combination has recently received a lot= of support. Although CTV has already been on signet for a few years, CSFS = isn't.

With CTV and CSFS being on the signet also allo= ws part of the LNHANCE to start experimenting, and it has been discussed th= at CSFS helps with BitVM by replacing Winternitz signatures completely with= a much lower potential on-chain data availability overhead. This also allo= ws applications relying on CTV + CSFS to develop further.

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