Received: from sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.193] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XjFUa-0000Jc-8a for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:43:56 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com ([209.85.217.169]) by sog-mx-3.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1XjFUZ-0007d1-9u for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:43:56 +0000 Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id l4so1486942lbv.14 for ; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:43:48 -0700 (PDT) X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:sender:in-reply-to:references:from :date:message-id:subject:to:cc:content-type; bh=UiqR5ceop+Lz8KXI/yGGRyr8LPYmAFj++EQ9g9RCJEk=; b=etD3sApQ+cGRp/0/Y6V9NqzJngszyf7zpR1d0Z0bNQz/c+Ant4eBXT0WCdpWnHrbdz Z2WBZC5f160zkY9NFQTrRV8Tm6KF80dy5pykFE8UhK0abceDUpJl4KSmLYE6LgkB0osd VrFtGuOihVgGQq7b1b1wF8kViTeHZtjQDElQyiVInixu7LSD0t77NlKA53smf9PIehrS 1aR3N0Pcc/XNNekJj0KvbrCxzJB3gTUFuZDlk3pv0PASW3+r9Pst6wJhGm6LGvxCS+Zl tayMnxje96ruLEfKSM7PzeGNQpNvYw/GdYz9qHszE/ISOe/wSqA9qZFee15vegAM2Ddp e6+g== X-Gm-Message-State: ALoCoQlzGKP58ufWsOdlrRrL4gkaZ24ept0EEJvD+YyrLZmJjPoVcX6F7FrMnhgyaEvIFaJWC4np X-Received: by 10.112.201.138 with SMTP id ka10mr7342729lbc.20.1414536228542; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:43:48 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Sender: ferdinando@ametrano.net Received: by 10.25.15.158 with HTTP; Tue, 28 Oct 2014 15:43:08 -0700 (PDT) X-Originating-IP: [79.11.148.196] In-Reply-To: References: From: "Ferdinando M. Ametrano" Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 23:43:08 +0100 X-Google-Sender-Auth: XrPxfVvAxSbjXCg_LeIXms_Xc70 Message-ID: To: Gregory Maxwell Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c266be6cb4d30506836152 X-Spam-Score: 0.9 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (ferdinando.ametrano[at]gmail.com) 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1XjFUZ-0007d1-9u Cc: Bitcoin Development Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: death by halving X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 28 Oct 2014 22:43:56 -0000 --001a11c266be6cb4d30506836152 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > As of now the cost per block is probably already about 100USD, probably > in > > the 50-150USD. > > This is wildly at odds with reality. I don't mean to insult, but > please understand that every post you make here consumes the time of > dozens (or, hopefully, hundreds) of people. Every minute you spend > refining your post has a potential return of many minutes for the rest > of the users of the list. > > At current difficulty, with a SP30 (one of the > leading-in-power-efficiency) marginal break-even is ~1144.8852 * $/kwh > == $/btc. > > At $0.10/kwh each block has an expected cost right now, discounting > all one time hardware costs, close to $3000. > yes, you're right I meant about $100USD per BTC, i.e. $2500 per block. Because of my mistake I'll shut up and go back researching the archive on this issue. Thank you for the kind summary of the many good reasons why halving is a non-issue. Very much appreciated, especially considering how precious is your time. --001a11c266be6cb4d30506836152 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On T= ue, Oct 28, 2014 at 10:43 PM, Gregory Maxwell <gmaxwell@gmail.com>= wrote:
> As o= f now the cost per block is probably already about 100USD, probably in
> the 50-150USD.

This is wildly at odds with reality. I don't mean to insult, but=
please understand that every post you make here consumes the time of
dozens (or, hopefully, hundreds) of people. Every minute you spend
refining your post has a potential return of many minutes for the rest
of the users of the list.

At current difficulty, with a SP30 (one of the
leading-in-power-efficiency) marginal break-even is ~1144.8852 * $/kwh
=3D=3D $/btc.

At $0.10/kwh each block has an expected cost right now, discounting
all one time hardware costs, close to $3000.

=
yes, you're right I meant about $100US= D per BTC, i.e. $2500 per block.
Because of= my mistake I'll shut up and go back researching the archive on this is= sue.

T= hank you for the kind summary of the many good reasons why halving is a non= -issue. Very much appreciated, especially considering how precious is your = time.
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