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From: "t. khan" <teekhan42@gmail.com>
Date: Mon, 2 Jan 2017 16:05:58 -0500
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To: Tom Zander <tomz@freedommail.ch>
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Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP - 'Block75' - New algorithm
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On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Tom Zander <tomz@freedommail.ch> wrote:

> If the input of your math is completely free and human created, how does it
> follow that it was math that created it ?
> Why do you want it math created anyway?


The beauty of math is that everyone on the planet agrees how it works.
Everything in Bitcoin is math, with the exception of the blocksize limit
(1MB) which was a stop-gap solution at the time.


> A maximum is needed, yes. But does it have to be part of the protocol?
> A simple policy which is set by node operators (reject block if greater
> than
> X bytes) will solve this just fine, no?


No. That would be an epic disaster. There's no such thing as a "simple
policy" when humans are involved. Obviously no one would agree on what X
bytes would be and you'd have some nodes rejecting blocks that others
already accepted.

- t.k.

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te">On Mon, Jan 2, 2017 at 3:35 PM, Tom Zander <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
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th is completely free and human created, how does it<br>
follow that it was math that created it ?<br>
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X bytes) will solve this just fine, no?</blockquote><div><br></div><div>No.=
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