Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 15F648DD for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 22:44:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-la0-f46.google.com (mail-la0-f46.google.com [209.85.215.46]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 7B27514B for ; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 22:44:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: by labd1 with SMTP id d1so31464442lab.1 for ; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 15:44:08 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=koYXJRJsFh39NvXKA5ntqAV/i7JrsZ0ywjwSNlov+2w=; b=mI3F18jqc7DeyDBdudAGs+zKMgryaoK8orXQz/K4s1ywumBsfoiPZ0rYRAycVwGrAF dtEXiV/xc+92I3XfFZOY6A12tOvYQXG6vEXEFQgTNr4OseZ+ItxKzvjig/3rAkZBHsem 4SVq+itXXQn4VyqJl6FivSvl77VZy67TRMISqWBNIHQkCZODcxj/qehFUJREArLd9C0A ekgtg249ke7RS44Qbw6Lgrd+8dsn05ZQkhxN6ALROmQDdZuy0OC6qaDY0P7jpOczanGd DnZTEPyje0sxmfMS7zhtN9+2QvVyCniCK8f+XAOfpjc9JvQxEQEMDCbZvHzG1FacRPS4 T3Pw== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.112.147.201 with SMTP id tm9mr17665380lbb.40.1439160248629; Sun, 09 Aug 2015 15:44:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.25.62.14 with HTTP; Sun, 9 Aug 2015 15:44:08 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: <55C79FF0.8040100@thinlink.com> <55C7CECB.7050905@gmail.com> Date: Sun, 9 Aug 2015 18:44:08 -0400 Message-ID: From: Gavin Andresen To: Hector Chu Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=047d7b34391a6501be051ce89b13 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] What Lightning Is X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Sun, 09 Aug 2015 22:44:11 -0000 --047d7b34391a6501be051ce89b13 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 While we're on the subject of payment hubs / lightning network... I'd love to see somebody write up a higher-level description of what the user experience is like, what communication happens underneath, and what new pieces of infrastructure need to get built to make it all work. A use-case to start with: A customer starts with eleven on-chain bitcoin. They want to pay for a nice cup of tea. Walk me through what happens before/during/after the transaction, assuming I have a lightning-enabled wallet on my iPhone and the tea shop has a lightning-enabled cash register. Assume neither the customer nor the tea shop are technically sophisticated -- assume the customer is using an SPV wallet and the tea shop is using a service similar to Bitpay. -- -- Gavin Andresen --047d7b34391a6501be051ce89b13 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
While we're on the subject of payment hubs / lightning= network...

I'd love to see somebody write up a high= er-level description of what the user experience is like, what communicatio= n happens underneath, and what new pieces of infrastructure need to get bui= lt to make it all work.

A use-case to start with:<= /div>

A customer starts with eleven on-chain bitcoin. Th= ey want to pay for a nice cup of tea. Walk me through what happens before/d= uring/after the transaction, assuming I have a =C2=A0lightning-enabled wall= et on my iPhone and the tea shop has a lightning-enabled cash register.

Assume neither the custome= r nor the tea shop are technically sophisticated -- assume the customer is = using an SPV wallet and the tea shop is using a service similar to Bitpay.<= /div>

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Gavin Andre= sen

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