Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D59F09FB for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 00:30:11 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail148096.authsmtp.net (outmail148096.authsmtp.net [62.13.148.96]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1DFC417B for ; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 00:30:10 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c237.authsmtp.com (mail-c237.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.237]) by punt17.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t7Q0U4Ve025506; Wed, 26 Aug 2015 01:30:04 +0100 (BST) Received: from muck ([50.58.157.74]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t7Q0TxDw048867 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Wed, 26 Aug 2015 01:30:02 +0100 (BST) Date: Tue, 25 Aug 2015 17:29:58 -0700 From: Peter Todd To: Chun Wang <1240902@gmail.com> Message-ID: <20150826002958.GA10628@muck> References: <20150825201643.GC11083@muck> <1489961.GhSFCGzPRJ@crushinator> <20150825203744.GB3464@muck> <55DCDB98.80004@bitcartel.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: X-Server-Quench: 97e9a6cc-4b89-11e5-9f75-002590a135d3 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR bwdMdAQUGUATAgsB AmMbW1VeU117WWA7 bgpPaA1DY09JQQJu T01BRU1TWkFvYBxl TmpZUh16fwNBNn90 ZUBnEHlcCU0rcxUu X0oGHWQbZGY1bX0W BkddagNUcgZDfk5E aVUrVz1vNG8XDSg5 AwQ0PjZ0MThBHWx5 UwcEKFMZSEIPD3YX QBYeBzIrGUAJDw8y MxchK1hUNkIWOUZ6 ClozVBo9Og9aIQRG fQl+Kg5hbwARV2Ju RS9AVEACJVUA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1024:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 50.58.157.74/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org, greg@xiph.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dynamically Controlled Bitcoin Block Size Max Cap [BIP 1xx - Draft] X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 26 Aug 2015 00:30:12 -0000 --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 05:44:46AM +0800, Chun Wang wrote: > On Wed, Aug 26, 2015 at 5:18 AM, Simon Liu via bitcoin-dev > wrote: > > I don't think this would work. > > > > If the rule is that one user can only have one vote, how do you prevent > > a user running multiple nodes? >=20 > The vote is not counted by nodes, but bitcoin amount, or probably > better, coin-days. It works like proof-of-stake. A mix of > proof-of-work and proof-of-stake is good. Yup. To implement a vote where only users with access to a full node can vote, you'd force part of the vote to be determined by a non-miner-committed value calculatable by anyone with a full node. For instance, a very simple toy example that would work is just XORing your vote with SHA256(the entire blockchain) --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 000000000000000008d42f5514157c3257577e006985ea8335e4567e1bed16bd --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJV3QiDXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwOGQ0MmY1NTE0MTU3YzMyNTc1NzdlMDA2OTg1ZWE4MzM1 ZTQ1NjdlMWJlZDE2YmQvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQwIXyHOf0udzs5Qf/RbbX6oJBqxLcSdKtnsEufNE1 /KG0ad/2xwxXazUNkAv5y2Zn+hGFnvyJWkka6FV5XxtNNE3CbLXkShNZlX+mBFyW D06xQ9ZHsHCCymOWlHNyiwlLxo5lJyPmARR2Lg2/qsGOcUmwQre/OjjkELDO6U5J xSkKRvGyegE+1mFWc/nzmHNvGJkaOL17+ZMnke9hD6q/+46lHUCt9h0YVYG9Md6c PiF5UY/UQdAeb1CVyoltidlxdg0yiHgF5Wh06xsEdJC2GYOuJQFBBcTImmaaZM8M YC38B5rHpDs1c/7GvWQGmn5rCi0GeV0vlRNKQH6sDFVuTsZewOB7gHATrwNm4g== =4pYO -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --1yeeQ81UyVL57Vl7--