Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1RaIEy-0005vp-Kg for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:37:12 +0000 X-ACL-Warn: Received: from nm35-vm2.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com ([98.138.229.98]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with smtp (Exim 4.76) id 1RaIEx-0005q8-Vb for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:37:12 +0000 Received: from [98.138.90.57] by nm35.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2011 02:37:06 -0000 Received: from [98.138.87.4] by tm10.bullet.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2011 02:37:06 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] by omp1004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com with NNFMP; 13 Dec 2011 02:37:06 -0000 X-Yahoo-Newman-Property: ymail-3 X-Yahoo-Newman-Id: 713987.34651.bm@omp1004.mail.ne1.yahoo.com Received: (qmail 22669 invoked by uid 60001); 13 Dec 2011 02:37:06 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 5pZ6DPAVM1kLWj28nCDx4N8XHsDipNJ.MaRsN7AR0DB.if2 ArIdqOpyciKEr5zm9m6VtRs7IvTAquiURVP0czb84WBWHznSdAH0XdLus6r_ FgoFQeerJ3ziKPJHTnj94EeFtV0.yBdR44JBMHOhxBYViHjqxPdzj3pReLe4 eDQlKjbT6S6HogbMiQj6ggJZYz0AmGvbBARJATLibo8x9EoYOM6IGs7x1K1V BW749WshlQccwXWm07zAdDV_0NV57uTbT8oeGxR9bYgTUcFtN9NaGhlNuLLn iJbbfhTfuTvTwcnntEVOOJ.Qmkb954wzrHpf88w7FG74binn0EHBg3ipKf3U C_2qlkOkXQzb2Yop.ajzvIfrp6H7tBh.lbiN4L1GOww5_IqRQ7mdDlzO_UCz f Received: from [92.20.180.200] by web121003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com via HTTP; Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:37:06 PST X-Mailer: YahooMailWebService/0.8.115.331698 References: <1323731781.42953.YahooMailClassic@web120920.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> <201112121841.39864.luke@dashjr.org> <1323736946.58149.YahooMailNeo@web121001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Message-ID: <1323743826.16120.YahooMailNeo@web121003.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2011 18:37:06 -0800 (PST) From: Amir Taaki To: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii X-Spam-Score: -2.4 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [98.138.229.98 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (zgenjix[at]yahoo.com) -2.3 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1RaIEx-0005q8-Vb Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list Reply-To: Amir Taaki List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 13 Dec 2011 02:37:12 -0000 lol, way to miss the point nanotube. FirstBits *is* useless, but not for the reasons you specified. But simply because the resources it needs rises exponentially as the number of participants in the network grows linearly. The point is that if FirstBits were built into the implementation, that would allow me to simply send to 1brmlab. The proposal here is not for a website where people can lookup bitcoin addresses, but a shared naming scheme between bitcoin implementations. Here's the story again: > I was in brmlab and wanted to pay 1 BTC for a Club Mate. They had on the wall a picture of their QR code and a bitcoin address. I don't own a mobile phone so the QR code is > useless. Then I remembered FirstBits, went to my terminal and typed > 1brmlab. I got their bitcoin address from the website and copied that, > then opened my terminal and pasted that in to send 1 BTC. In our revised history, I simply send 1 BTC to brmlab BOOM. Club Mate ----- Original Message ----- From: Daniel F To: Amir Taaki Cc: "bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net" Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 2:32 AM Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Fwd: [BIP 15] Aliases > I was in brmlab and wanted to pay 1 BTC for a Club Mate. They had on the wall a picture of their QR code and a bitcoin address. I don't own a mobile phone so the QR code is > useless. Then I remembered FirstBits, went to my terminal and typed > 1brmlab. I got their bitcoin address from the website and copied that, > then opened my terminal and pasted that in to send 1 BTC. ok, imagine if firstbits didn't exist. instead of going to firstbits, you would have gone to your terminal, opened up brmlabs website, and copied the address from there? there may be some arguments for name-> address translation, but i'm sorry to say, that your example is not one of them. if anything, it seems to suggest that firstbits is completely useless, since it saves approximately zero effort.