Received: from sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.194] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-4.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1XJSke-0004j6-3X for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:37:56 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.220.181 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.220.181; envelope-from=gmaxwell@gmail.com; helo=mail-vc0-f181.google.com; Received: from mail-vc0-f181.google.com ([209.85.220.181]) by sog-mx-4.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1XJSkd-0003RB-CW for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:37:56 +0000 Received: by mail-vc0-f181.google.com with SMTP id lf12so6371147vcb.12 for ; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:37:49 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.52.69.172 with SMTP id f12mr3985128vdu.9.1408390669816; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:37:49 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.52.187.132 with HTTP; Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:37:49 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <20140818183721.GD31175@localhost.localdomain> References: <20140818164543.GB31175@localhost.localdomain> <20140818183721.GD31175@localhost.localdomain> Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 12:37:49 -0700 Message-ID: From: Gregory Maxwell To: Ivan Pustogarov Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (gmaxwell[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1XJSkd-0003RB-CW Cc: Bitcoin Development Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Outbound connections rotation X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2014 19:37:56 -0000 On Mon, Aug 18, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Ivan Pustogarov wrote: > the same for a long time, an attacker which does not have any peers at all > but just listens the Bitcoin network can link together differed BC addresses > and learn the IP of the client. I don't understand what you're talking about here; if you have no peer at all you will learn nothing about the Bitcoin network. Can you clarify? > The 8 entry peers are unique per client so if two > users share the same IP, they can be distinguished. What mechanism are you referring to specifically? > Outbound connections are still rotated from time to time due to remote side > disconnections. Plus outbound connections do not survive BC client restarts > (unlike Tor Guard nodes). On our initial connections we do have a preference for nodes we knew were up recently. This could be made further. That the current behavior isn't great isn't an argument for making it worse on that dimension.