Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-2.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1V1ZGd-0002pw-Kt for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:52:27 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 74.125.82.51 as permitted sender) client-ip=74.125.82.51; envelope-from=andyparkins@gmail.com; helo=mail-wg0-f51.google.com; Received: from mail-wg0-f51.google.com ([74.125.82.51]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1V1ZGb-0006wD-Sh for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:52:27 +0000 Received: by mail-wg0-f51.google.com with SMTP id e11so6940229wgh.30 for ; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 02:52:19 -0700 (PDT) X-Received: by 10.194.78.110 with SMTP id a14mr22458863wjx.84.1374573139751; Tue, 23 Jul 2013 02:52:19 -0700 (PDT) Received: from momentum.localnet ([91.84.15.31]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPSA id o10sm4630847wiz.5.2013.07.23.02.52.16 for (version=TLSv1 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-RC4-SHA bits=128/128); Tue, 23 Jul 2013 02:52:17 -0700 (PDT) From: Andy Parkins To: Pieter Wuille Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 10:52:14 +0100 User-Agent: KMail/1.13.7 (Linux/3.9-1-686-pae; KDE/4.8.4; i686; ; ) References: <201307231030.14139.andyparkins@gmail.com> <20130723094204.GB6385@vps7135.xlshosting.net> In-Reply-To: <20130723094204.GB6385@vps7135.xlshosting.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Message-Id: <201307231052.14210.andyparkins@gmail.com> X-Spam-Score: -1.6 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (andyparkins[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 DKIM_VALID_AU Message has a valid DKIM or DK signature from author's domain 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1V1ZGb-0006wD-Sh Cc: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] HTTP REST API for bitcoind X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2013 09:52:27 -0000 On Tuesday 23 July 2013 10:42:05 Pieter Wuille wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 10:30:13AM +0100, Andy Parkins wrote: > > One additional URL makes this pretty much perfect: > > GET /rest/block-with-tx/TX-HASH > > > > Construction of the transaction-hash-to-block database is something the > > full client's have to do anyway, so this query is no harder than the > > others for them to supply; but suddenly makes it possible for an SPV > > client to trace the providence of any transaction without needing to > > maintain the entire chain. > > There is actually no such index being maintained by default, and doing so > is an unnecessary burden IMHO (you need to enable -txindex since 0.8 to > get this). Of course, if enabled, it can be exposed. Wow. I'm surprised at that. How does a newly received transaction have its inputs verified then? Multiple linear brute force searches of the block chain for every new transaction? Or is it that transactions are only recorded if they were in a block, and just their presence indicates they're valid? Andy -- Dr Andy Parkins andyparkins@gmail.com