Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E453894D for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:51:15 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-wm0-f52.google.com (mail-wm0-f52.google.com [74.125.82.52]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 283311E5 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:51:15 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-wm0-f52.google.com with SMTP id q128so229623803wma.1 for ; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 01:51:15 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=palatinus-cz.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to; bh=jXYdNYQD53damt02Qk9McpAj9AQklHKPswOoIOvIOwk=; b=AR1cSzWN9I6xXMPmoOKkxml8sXsq1/uBGyxx2ITykVka+TAgIQtUdzVPWIiSHt/e/p ucd2o8g6DWCFCthd0Y/dF0RuvLjgeFNryK6M7OYjyBDn/22qe9sHNb73jvq6xKLFtw/2 T+sUHqf75OudjJ6zotk3dPAC1V3lkBI+J7Vj/hCr0BSgOJIgzwdP4i1Q8xyQw6RMGe2x CVgVJRj4FL7WWWBPl9BZUWo+NqEISX/ai0ZGernWEu1xtnQLu9q6oo0FzrZsuO8lzbl3 9xCsvxFsCWyaWQbWJZu2Uj1aBQrsPoIPEApR9k3UV4mIT/of6AIsd+7b57d+ykHpP4f1 VUtw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20130820; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to; bh=jXYdNYQD53damt02Qk9McpAj9AQklHKPswOoIOvIOwk=; b=ZknRzStUsgxLKse4H0wkZTE7IlDfvEpA2+SLbViwM7m/ms/YcwoSDQILc0DTjHBz8U 0z03Aq59xfLfoeDgcDivBYIzctgEX7lKiiVaNZYeNxsvu7bznMgsSyrQGasJGgSNo11v i3VzhiOM6uVXQKZ8hi6Dlpkk6JdEbp2ktYtGnuxlQ344G2ejKdK2G+GwWJwmIybVQlo1 mzDjQ/rT6uod/38LKdyT80fzJW90kQ0GVbaqyQyAVOfMYp3EclRxUkeOkVtbpBLL7k9A byK7CceqjNnAszWq1o6vV87cFqM18jpFNbm0udi9Xir6JQ0Wqou07XTjy4QxcKkmHtR6 cHnw== X-Gm-Message-State: AEkoousUV+VnAqD7dZnOIT4LJYao0YYSeVDI7lqGL0Pj/QlpL8eK0mvIaoLV2tDYhnH64GX2M7an9GgPJs331A== X-Received: by 10.28.203.136 with SMTP id b130mr30379892wmg.13.1472115073767; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 01:51:13 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.28.43.135 with HTTP; Thu, 25 Aug 2016 01:50:43 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <57BEA866.5070801@jonasschnelli.ch> References: <201608232012.12588.luke@dashjr.org> <90bf12f2-e109-28b4-e93e-54bbc8002cb4@electrum.org> <57BDACB2.9040307@jonasschnelli.ch> <278c940d-4b3b-2b8a-1aa5-f0991f1e6c8e@gmail.com> <57BEA0B0.3090308@jonasschnelli.ch> <756a4e04-c42d-cd61-794d-59f159c109b5@electrum.org> <57BEA775.4020701@jonasschnelli.ch> <57BEA866.5070801@jonasschnelli.ch> From: Marek Palatinus Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 10:50:43 +0200 Message-ID: To: Jonas Schnelli , Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c1309d60a8065053ae1809c X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Status updates (including to Active/Final Status) - BIP 39, BIP 43, BIP 44, BIP 67, BIP 111, BIP 125, BIP 130 X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2016 08:51:16 -0000 --94eb2c1309d60a8065053ae1809c Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 As Luke pointed, BIP44 is already used by many wallets and to my knowledge people don't have any real world issues with that, including loading funds in another BIP44 wallet. I'm not saying that BIP44 is perfect from all points of view, but IMO it just works for most use cases. Let's set it as final, and propose competing standards which cover all your concerns. slush On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Jonas Schnelli via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > > The development paradigm of "maybe detect funds" is not something we > > should *not* encourage for Bitcoin IMO. > > Sorry. That was one "not" to many. > > > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > --94eb2c1309d60a8065053ae1809c Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
As Luke pointed, BIP44 is already used by many wallets and= to my knowledge people don't have any real world issues with that, inc= luding loading funds in another BIP44 wallet. I'm not saying that BIP44= is perfect from all points of view, but IMO it just works for most use cas= es. Let's set it as final, and propose competing standards which cover = all your concerns.

slush

On Thu, Aug 25, 2016 at 10:12 AM, Jon= as Schnelli via bitcoin-dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfo= undation.org> wrote:

> The development paradigm of "maybe detect funds" is not some= thing we
> should *not* encourage for Bitcoin IMO.

Sorry. That was one "not" to many.

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