Return-Path: <sickpig@gmail.com> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 8A053E77 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:13:55 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-lb0-f169.google.com (mail-lb0-f169.google.com [209.85.217.169]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E0FCE106 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:13:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-lb0-f169.google.com with SMTP id u9so60368749lbp.2 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 02:13:54 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc:content-type; bh=RpGAOcwqCXwtrQjy2M6mDjeMhfkg9cNebHgIHpMANa8=; b=xYTbNFoXdpEOD7mEOprgEeeA0UyJmNAeGe/xOsmi05RD1p7BJhmZiEGQrO9Kc9ofSE ucY0xbHGlJ+DZ4tf3oMBhcUvtwyD+f8YEOdMDzbuGAm83hklzHsOs1IyK3CSGzCZhFtJ MkON53adJWOUOoEnGRTXUIYy/CzoY32deJyllAgdi347C5R1WSji2XyTXXIVvdwXxjTL pCmUEmEfeiNLinLwPwtIJGoBkXw2u4yAxF0u7KLacj1fAvlU1XArHGvcOEamlHkYKFK4 /5HJziukQJ614wD2bDGagIxjrcamUBKbt1zTLubXLvPDzGOU3CL/7g/fHZU2uAOdAvAf 6nyA== X-Received: by 10.112.160.202 with SMTP id xm10mr821893lbb.22.1450433632816; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 02:13:52 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.25.89.139 with HTTP; Fri, 18 Dec 2015 02:13:33 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: <CAPg+sBjbATqf8DXGF7obw9a=371zQ_S0EgTapnUmukAVenTneQ@mail.gmail.com> References: <CADm_WcasDuBsop55ZWcTb2FvccaoREg8K032rUjgQUQhQ3g=XA@mail.gmail.com> <CAPg+sBi=Mw7UnxG1-0-0ZTRqxrS5+28VmowyYrGP2MAvYiu_pA@mail.gmail.com> <CADm_WcbrMyk-=OnQ-3UvnF_8brhn+X2NqRPbo5xUXsbcZpc0=Q@mail.gmail.com> <CAPg+sBjbATqf8DXGF7obw9a=371zQ_S0EgTapnUmukAVenTneQ@mail.gmail.com> From: "sickpig@gmail.com" <sickpig@gmail.com> Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:13:33 +0100 Message-ID: <CA+c4Zozac8=aMrAJ1N_6SR9eBD+w0e70cEnk9CG_2oZ72AS-8g@mail.gmail.com> To: Pieter Wuille <pieter.wuille@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11c261ac74562905272965e0 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 11:24:07 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin development mailing list <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Block size: It's economics & user preparation & moral hazard X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 18 Dec 2015 10:13:55 -0000 --001a11c261ac74562905272965e0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Fri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > > > - only assuming robust adoption rates by up-layer ecosystem software, and > > That's not required. Everyone who individually switches to new > transactions gets to do 1.75x more transactions for the same price > (and at the same time gets safer contracts, better script > upgradability, and more security models at their disposal), completely > independent of whether anyone else in the ecosystem does the same. > > So hypothetically if wallets/payments processors/full nodes adoption will take 6 month to get to 50% after the segwit soft-fork activation, this means that actual network capacity will be increased by: 1.75 x 0.5 + 1 x 0.5 = 1.375 after six month. An hard-fork on the others side would bring 1.75 since the activation, am I right? --001a11c261ac74562905272965e0 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On F= ri, Dec 18, 2015 at 8:56 AM, Pieter Wuille via bitcoin-dev <span dir=3D"ltr= "><<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_b= lank">bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><block= quote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc= solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class=3D""><br> > - only assuming robust adoption rates by up-layer ecosystem software, = and<br> <br> </span>That's not required. Everyone who individually switches to new<b= r> transactions gets to do 1.75x more transactions for the same price<br> (and at the same time gets safer contracts, better script<br> upgradability, and more security models at their disposal), completely<br> independent of whether anyone else in the ecosystem does the same.<br> <span class=3D""><br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>So hypothetica= lly if wallets/payments processors/full nodes adoption <br></div><div>will = take 6 month to get to 50% after the segwit soft-fork activation, this <br>= </div><div>means that actual network capacity will be increased by: <br><br= ></div><div>1.75 x 0.5 + 1 x 0.5 =3D 1.375<br><br></div><div>after six mont= h. <br><br></div><div>An hard-fork on the others side would bring 1.75 sinc= e the activation, am I right? <br><br><br></div><div><br><br></div><div><br= ></div></div><br></div></div> --001a11c261ac74562905272965e0--