Return-Path: <jtimon@jtimon.cc> Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DB52C49B for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 10 May 2017 05:37:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-ua0-f181.google.com (mail-ua0-f181.google.com [209.85.217.181]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 21E47FF for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Wed, 10 May 2017 05:37:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-ua0-f181.google.com with SMTP id e55so23500558uaa.2 for <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org>; Tue, 09 May 2017 22:37:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=jtimon-cc.20150623.gappssmtp.com; s=20150623; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=bph+pRZb6DHm8I0RMsIWO1rKh1Fcs1HzLseioMJAK94=; b=rVjps3fDCuGwaSTgSDoStXXIaEDzB0n2yWxyOaPiNv1RQ6iEKGi5Sk6phv7ev2ACws pVntc7NG4dzCa4zCLzyYeQNVyq10nLyobuohBEHLg6KZVk/Vs+HP9gDiNGkUlGqgTp35 D/kQ0tScZxYMY+SCAC4Y19p/oTd7yfhgc+CNO4wBiweiFpxwTMUlGLHMdLzXO/FvzAcg BBPIyGdeP/dqK8Ddn/I1VAVzys0W/+hUygC6aHkLxnsQ3mzroeX/31DDZEBZ+cRdLSS7 IfcMWxyguwD+bqzOBiUH0CjJSHKmiSWgAOAc4I9wpOwyU9x6NfKazFq4anXytEkaVF/i QS7A== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=bph+pRZb6DHm8I0RMsIWO1rKh1Fcs1HzLseioMJAK94=; b=LRUqiTsMT8EUHE62lFSZQpdpZF8KSg8yAXxmShryYYyUS2SWS0+F2ZdgLDltn2XDP4 1SzNRoKWJwQHRDjM2QWWfDByV+3PRwIUF9g+sA4Ku48Um5oS9pbTIDw+pfWjQPSvbS18 fFZbikUc5g7ayxkC5qrKd8K7yivwNsTDL6UuB7tm2oJP5QEXFswgmlE/27TtY7FO1Vy4 ttVZX4+Dn2Yx/l9aC0DoQkFVTzTNKlDPerHiL7lG4oLtooHgtyRjAcdWCYHc3qhVCH/0 IJhqq9au/xlLQvczjqnM5QaLFL7zN3rZdytVCPYYTGt9KNg0xwfAUSV7yiNfPMuC1+jv /oEg== X-Gm-Message-State: AODbwcAUnFNusa4Gruv0bb7j3YWQOToCaYZC0ZwVSAOZ6cfhJyGyBrx4 fMHQpuvynLIIVFsG8bCofyMx4NiL5w== X-Received: by 10.159.37.105 with SMTP id 96mr1934130uaz.92.1494394654275; Tue, 09 May 2017 22:37:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.31.151.200 with HTTP; Tue, 9 May 2017 22:37:33 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.31.151.200 with HTTP; Tue, 9 May 2017 22:37:33 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: <CAKzdR-qsj9Ag8o1UqcgZpKTVRwXm2+qJuHfxHu6keLgkWeEnAw@mail.gmail.com> References: <CAKzdR-qojNn8OtUTPbxa0JauK9nmo2ZGm4ihKuyzsz_FAgokDw@mail.gmail.com> <CAMBsKS_j7Lso6fHoMPkrQ7UFwKfxOERAAqL=aUF83O4CqL+iFg@mail.gmail.com> <CAKzdR-on-w9EF+2hLjchdyHB1gj7fi4QnybA=J4Cz7yyN3KKNA@mail.gmail.com> <e86d9b29-f7dd-75da-e6c6-f55648bea104@mattcorallo.com> <CAKzdR-pyE2f0jdsU+QGbJQ9gMepsyS880kntE9MRvDBLG_Nchg@mail.gmail.com> <CAKzdR-pN0B-wjhPh3n6Jw7L6wsz9yQ=kyVX7NYx5ACZC3bg8OA@mail.gmail.com> <CAAS2fgQsT7c+CEfC+U9N+g-+V4s8WnQjRqDddfCKMb6+BkJ3-A@mail.gmail.com> <f4605b47-03be-7493-fa3a-19ad4def3fa8@mattcorallo.com> <CAAS2fgQv84WgScOkAt_FttgQHjGbRMBmjXA8_EcmyL_K=WCCWA@mail.gmail.com> <CAKzdR-qsj9Ag8o1UqcgZpKTVRwXm2+qJuHfxHu6keLgkWeEnAw@mail.gmail.com> From: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= <jtimon@jtimon.cc> Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 07:37:33 +0200 Message-ID: <CABm2gDoSKtgja5-=rARiZXos05JxJv8heUQ_3NNmeftJqE+1Zw@mail.gmail.com> To: Sergio Demian Lerner <sergio.d.lerner@gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=94eb2c0cba3685d1d9054f24de95 X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.4 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE, RCVD_IN_SORBS_SPAM autolearn=no version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev <bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Some real-world results about the current Segwit Discount X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion <bitcoin-dev.lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/options/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.linuxfoundation.org/pipermail/bitcoin-dev/> List-Post: <mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> List-Help: <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev>, <mailto:bitcoin-dev-request@lists.linuxfoundation.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Wed, 10 May 2017 05:37:39 -0000 --94eb2c0cba3685d1d9054f24de95 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 If there's a better factor than 0.25 I would change it now before deploying segwit instead of leaving it to be changed later with a hf. On 9 May 2017 10:59 pm, "Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev" < bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote: > I agree with you Matt. > I'm artificially limiting myself to changing the parameters of Segwit as > it is.. > > This is motivated by the idea that a consensual HF in the current state > would have greater chance of acceptance if it changes the minimum number of > lines of code. > > > > On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Gregory Maxwell <greg@xiph.org> wrote: > >> On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Matt Corallo <lf-lists@mattcorallo.com> >> wrote: >> > at beast. >> >> Rawr. >> > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev > > --94eb2c0cba3685d1d9054f24de95 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"auto">If there's a better factor than 0.25 I would change i= t now before deploying segwit instead of leaving it to be changed later wit= h a hf.=C2=A0</div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote= ">On 9 May 2017 10:59 pm, "Sergio Demian Lerner via bitcoin-dev" = <<a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@li= sts.linuxfoundation.org</a>> wrote:<br type=3D"attribution"><blockquote = class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid= ;padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr">I agree with you Matt.=C2=A0<div>I'= m artificially limiting myself to changing the parameters of Segwit as it i= s..=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>This is motivated by the idea that a con= sensual HF in the current state would have greater chance of acceptance if = it changes the minimum number of lines of code.</div><div><br></div><div><b= r></div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On = Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:13 PM, Gregory Maxwell <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href= =3D"mailto:greg@xiph.org" target=3D"_blank">greg@xiph.org</a>></span> wr= ote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border= -left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 7:42 PM, Matt= Corallo <<a href=3D"mailto:lf-lists@mattcorallo.com" target=3D"_blank">= lf-lists@mattcorallo.com</a>> wrote:<br> > at beast.<br> <br> Rawr.<br> </blockquote></div><br></div> <br>______________________________<wbr>_________________<br> bitcoin-dev mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org">bitcoin-dev@lists.= <wbr>linuxfoundation.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev" = rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://lists.linuxfoundation.<wbr>org= /mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-<wbr>dev</a><br> <br></blockquote></div></div> --94eb2c0cba3685d1d9054f24de95--