Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9FE4CE88 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 21:29:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-oi0-f42.google.com (mail-oi0-f42.google.com [209.85.218.42]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 511AF14E for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 21:29:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-oi0-f42.google.com with SMTP id a184so1840350oif.7 for ; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:29:28 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20161025; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date:message-id:subject:to :cc; bh=emwNFRx8Ky09j9Z+fuKUKTdIyM96LKyy9c8f/s3OiOY=; b=rVYz+LMBSRtwUP3sQIBHWLQ1MIwbAjjoGGPE72uMFl4Ust4fC4V1NoKpLFTcint44D 4EHQUzOqNhaQTPonenapn72rJ1bX5C7zSpw6aeDmTv8ejQxVVsLStHyOftBunGTcb2Kg 7YWne5kxglTraVFbn1q61krineiTVA8N/jTIasilGdZDqbZfjbSYFpQODSoCRHBZfS8t 34jIlVyDgrp5J2IX6hifFIkVQWBw6MNxot9IYOBkGxoKciSIlQy1T9DeO3mixTG04Bc7 y9MXXfIGuQ7sha2Ls9FQjPe7vh5CyHnM24B5UrQB07Nf8xeFUbS3+K8vD2JNTjSqtJ/k s/2w== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20161025; h=x-gm-message-state:mime-version:in-reply-to:references:from:date :message-id:subject:to:cc; bh=emwNFRx8Ky09j9Z+fuKUKTdIyM96LKyy9c8f/s3OiOY=; b=QZRcJCBdW0zrfecLp315WKrTb4afe7M0R4ClH2B10d+6ZJccmBi16WsocRee8rMv4o QWsQcM7zlQk/7baM3DXXly+9u5DHkQaR1ylg654KjNrPNujn7Q8kjgLeIGZsTk7SY0zw umBUQJxFMI82gr9KsghLent2iS0h7afBAWkdk6CqWlsG7Vs8xoi5IwvRRpBQCY1cOILS lYjToe8IeZQ099OEjQzJHMAAghulfURTG+VHm7Hr9Qgg4AP9eL91w/axO3gGJM3IwUMn G/BAYH0oY1zhcIZl5VfJdvdT5wNWhsTciHI6wo2k1wImwCg559wlC1paw/ljC5w1+z/C wSYg== X-Gm-Message-State: AKwxytclV4fxx812xVj3djROfHw81XoC9ZGVqQa1u+ernX7uaTTsrXQQ R1xOo6uOIRXxSokadxoH7UNFru3J0Vw9nuDR7X0= X-Google-Smtp-Source: ACJfBouFLrS209qsMkuCV7nZ48iGe5/B9RYEGnjeUAHB8uPq0nJ0HqQAXg6PT1Uwl9oV1vicraMf5Bt7ktqkdm2Jtdk= X-Received: by 10.202.237.77 with SMTP id l74mr3676603oih.118.1516310967645; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:29:27 -0800 (PST) MIME-Version: 1.0 Received: by 10.74.152.10 with HTTP; Thu, 18 Jan 2018 13:29:27 -0800 (PST) In-Reply-To: References: From: Alan Evans Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 17:29:27 -0400 Message-ID: To: Matthew Clancy Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="001a113d16ce987e4b056313a855" X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.0 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID, DKIM_VALID_AU, FREEMAIL_FROM, HTML_MESSAGE, RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org X-Mailman-Approved-At: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 21:38:39 +0000 Cc: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Suggestion to remove word from BIP39 English wordlist X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Protocol Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 18 Jan 2018 21:29:28 -0000 --001a113d16ce987e4b056313a855 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > and then agree that by convention, the words 'satoshi' or the alternative word will represent the same number on the list That convention would be the alternative to BIP0039 I am referring to. On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Matthew Clancy wrote: > I would disagree here: > > >But most of all: > >7. Removing a word or changing a list *is impossible* as verification of > an > >existing mnemonic requires the list. To change one word, you would need to > >provide an alternative to BIP0039 to cope with alternative words, or > change > >all the words to a completely new set of 2048 English words so that it is > >clear which wordlist is in use. > > All that really would need to be done is select another word that is not > on the 2048 list, and then agree that by convention, the words 'satoshi' > or the alternative word will represent the same number on the list. It > seems to be to be a fairly simple thing to implement. > > > --001a113d16ce987e4b056313a855 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

> and then agree that by convention,=C2=A0 the wor= ds 'satoshi' or the alternative word will represent the same number= on the list

That convention would be the alter= native to BIP0039 I am referring to.


On Thu, Jan 18, 2018 at 4:49 PM, Matthew Clancy <= matthewpclancy@gmail.com> wrote:
I would disagree here:

>But most of all:
>7. Removing a word or changing a list *is impossible* = as verification of an
>existing mnemonic requires the list. To change one wor= d, you would need to
&= gt;provide an alternative to BIP0039 to cope with alternative words, or cha= nge
>all the words = to a completely new set of 2048 English words so that it is
>clear which wordlist is in use.
<= br>
All that really would need to be done is select another word that is not= on the 2048 list, and then agree that by convention,=C2=A0 the words '= satoshi' or the alternative word will represent the same number on the = list. It seems to be to be a fairly simple thing to implement.=C2=A0=



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