Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 473D7AE7 for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:11:56 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mail-la0-f48.google.com (mail-la0-f48.google.com [209.85.215.48]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 80B0F14F for ; Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:11:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by lagi2 with SMTP id i2so35471796lag.2 for ; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:11:53 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20120113; h=mime-version:in-reply-to:references:date:message-id:subject:from:to :cc:content-type; bh=+1okN0I9SZK/tcvZcyF5r1txl5BprWGP84AjPzM0Ug4=; b=i9Bgrv7Ac+4sbAPw4oUG1yyLSycRwqPO1bqfk3G6GAtt8uXkNC1JVH/mn9Mj91lsxD YDIBt9v/1Xjj1V0LN3hZszrUdcbU7LYNeTJWdLNFghjhDkxiTTnKxQRqxioEs3+S2J/X LWXh44PhcSuc2tNOBXP64i7+BKjkg8A60VvoLUkmQOYDGqW7aPNVlJTLI2sZ6ok2+lQP x7C/dkplSe25ch59GDW/Cb9LxGCloNWu3E6SnuOvMXIZwsZbHZ8lrHJi85DFWzNIvAm5 jpFVjryotxripsP5cdiaqajbGQPryjx+6U19tVu4xI0MmflQYS9L3iuRnXM+V+PRRo1o RAsg== MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.152.207.105 with SMTP id lv9mr42606111lac.10.1435191113616; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:11:53 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.152.18.168 with HTTP; Wed, 24 Jun 2015 17:11:53 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 19:11:53 -0500 Message-ID: From: Bryan Bishop To: Jeff Garzik , Bryan Bishop Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a1134792083198505194c785e X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.7 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,DKIM_SIGNED, DKIM_VALID,DKIM_VALID_AU,FREEMAIL_FROM,HTML_MESSAGE,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP Process and Votes X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2015 00:11:56 -0000 --001a1134792083198505194c785e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Wed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Jeff Garzik wrote: > There is no voting in the way you think. Devs commit changes the users > will accept and use. Users "fire" developers by choosing different devs or > different software. I think that statement is too weak. Users are all personally responsible for evaluating all rules for themselves. Many have chosen and will continue to choose to just keep an ear out for rule changes that they may be interested in using. Ever user should be educated on this topic... otherwise there are too many principal agent problems, even with the ability to "fire" developers (a.k.a "use different software"). It's similar to the reasons why it's important to see all the transactions on the network. - Bryan http://heybryan.org/ 1 512 203 0507 --001a1134792083198505194c785e Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
On W= ed, Jun 24, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Jeff Garzik <jgarzik@gmail.com>= wrote:
There is no voting in the way you= think. Devs commit changes the users will accept and use. Users "fire= " developers by choosing different devs or different software.

I think that statement is too weak. Users are all personally= responsible for evaluating all rules for themselves. Many have chosen and = will continue to choose to just keep an ear out for rule changes that they = may be interested in using. Ever user should be educated on this topic... o= therwise there are too many principal agent problems, even with the ability= to "fire" developers (a.k.a "use different software").= It's similar to the reasons why it's important to see all the tran= sactions on the network.

-= Bryan
http://heybrya= n.org/
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