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From: Daniele Pinna <daniele.pinna@gmail.com>
Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:31:34 +0200
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Interesting! I didn't notice BIP 99's anti-miner hardfork proposal....
thanks for pointing it out to me.

Dpinna

Daniele Pinna, Ph.D

On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n <jtimon@jtimon.cc> wrote:

>
> On Oct 2, 2015 10:03 AM, "Daniele Pinna via bitcoin-dev" <
> bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org> wrote:
> >
> > should an algorithm that guarantees protection from ASIC/FPGA
> optimization be found.
>
> This is demonstrably impossible: anything that can be done with software
> can be done with hardware. This is computer science 101.
> And specialized hardware can always be more efficient, at least
> energy-wise.
>
> On the other hand, BIP99 explicitly contemplates "anti-miner hardforks"
> (obviously not for so called "ASIC-resistance" [an absurd term coined to
> promote some altcoins], but just for restarting the ASIC and mining marke=
t
> in case mining becomes too centralized).
>

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Interesting! I didn&#39;t notice BIP 99&#39;s anti-mi=
ner hardfork proposal.... thanks for pointing it out to me.<br><br></div>Dp=
inna<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br clear=3D"all"><div><div class=
=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Daniele Pinna, Ph.D</div></div><=
/div></div>
<br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 10:20 AM, Jorge Tim=
=C3=B3n <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:jtimon@jtimon.cc" target=3D=
"_blank">jtimon@jtimon.cc</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gma=
il_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-lef=
t:1ex"><span class=3D""><p dir=3D"ltr"><br>
On Oct 2, 2015 10:03 AM, &quot;Daniele Pinna via bitcoin-dev&quot; &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org" target=3D"_blank">bitc=
oin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; should an algorithm that guarantees protection from ASIC/FPGA optimiza=
tion be found.</p>
</span><p dir=3D"ltr">This is demonstrably impossible: anything that can be=
 done with software can be done with hardware. This is computer science 101=
.<br>
And specialized hardware can always be more efficient, at least energy-wise=
. </p>
<p dir=3D"ltr">On the other hand, BIP99 explicitly contemplates &quot;anti-=
miner hardforks&quot; (obviously not for so called &quot;ASIC-resistance&qu=
ot; [an absurd term coined to promote some altcoins], but just for restarti=
ng the ASIC and mining market in case mining becomes too centralized).</p>
</blockquote></div><br></div>

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