Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id BAB7BBAC for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 05:53:26 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from outmail148154.authsmtp.co.uk (outmail148154.authsmtp.co.uk [62.13.148.154]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 04B4B1C5 for ; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 05:53:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-c235.authsmtp.com (mail-c235.authsmtp.com [62.13.128.235]) by punt15.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t5T5rK76083979; Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:53:20 +0100 (BST) Received: from savin.petertodd.org (75-119-251-161.dsl.teksavvy.com [75.119.251.161]) (authenticated bits=128) by mail.authsmtp.com (8.14.2/8.14.2/) with ESMTP id t5T5rFOG005300 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA bits=128 verify=NO); Mon, 29 Jun 2015 06:53:18 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 01:53:15 -0400 From: Peter Todd To: Gregory Maxwell Message-ID: <20150629055314.GB502@savin.petertodd.org> References: <20150629050726.GA502@savin.petertodd.org> <201506290540.26019.luke@dashjr.org> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="s2ZSL+KKDSLx8OML" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.21 (2010-09-15) X-Server-Quench: 2478a185-1e23-11e5-b396-002590a15da7 X-AuthReport-Spam: If SPAM / abuse - report it at: http://www.authsmtp.com/abuse X-AuthRoute: OCd2Yg0TA1ZNQRgX IjsJECJaVQIpKltL GxAVKBZePFsRUQkR aQdMdAsUEkAaAgsB AmMbW1JeVV57WGs7 bA9PbARUfEhLXhtr VklWR1pVCwQmRRll A1xoLW5ydwBFeH4+ ZEdiXngVXkB9fRd8 SktJFDgEZnphaTUa TRJbfgVJcANIexZF O1F6ACIKLwdSbGoL FQ4vNDcwO3BTJTpg CissFQBab1sPGnYG SggGFD4iWEcUAgs+ IlQqJ0YYG1cUP0Mu eUAqWV8ULhsfYgAA X-Authentic-SMTP: 61633532353630.1023:706 X-AuthFastPath: 0 (Was 255) X-AuthSMTP-Origin: 75.119.251.161/587 X-AuthVirus-Status: No virus detected - but ensure you scan with your own anti-virus system. X-Spam-Status: No, score=-2.6 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] BIP: Full Replace-by-Fee deployment schedule X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 29 Jun 2015 05:53:26 -0000 --s2ZSL+KKDSLx8OML Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 05:43:13AM +0000, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > On Mon, Jun 29, 2015 at 5:40 AM, Luke Dashjr wrote: > > Policy is node/miner fiat and not the domain of BIPs. >=20 > Even accepting the premise that policy is pure local fiat, the > conclusion doesn't follow for me. BIPs about best practices or > especially anything where interop or coordination are, I think, > reasonable uses of the process. >=20 > E.g. you might want to know what other kinds of policy are in use if > you're to have any hope of authoring transactions that work at all! For example, consider Luke-Jr's own BIP19, M-of-N Standard Transactions, a non-consensus-critical suggested policy change! https://github.com/bitcoin/bips/blob/master/bip-0019.mediawiki Anyway, full-RBF has significant impacts for wallet authors and many other stakeholders. At minimum it changes how you will want to author and (re)author transactions, much like BIP19 does. --=20 'peter'[:-1]@petertodd.org 00000000000000000ffad4a87861689c067f5dd3b98b84d8096572c163aa913a --s2ZSL+KKDSLx8OML Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQGrBAEBCACVBQJVkN1FXhSAAAAAABUAQGJsb2NraGFzaEBiaXRjb2luLm9yZzAw MDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwMDAwZmZhZDRhODc4NjE2ODljMDY3ZjVkZDNiOThiODRkODA5 NjU3MmMxNjNhYTkxM2EvFIAAAAAAFQARcGthLWFkZHJlc3NAZ251cGcub3JncGV0 ZUBwZXRlcnRvZC5vcmcACgkQJIFAPaXwkft4BAf+PLQR40Li1C0wfAq6jMN1J8Es TaYdjTEQSelvhEgmc5Qx9yBOtdkJppKSLbDFriBRjNy1KnqRwJg2xGppP2u/gBGH XsKuNusym3cRDFJlG+/4t66e/8iu7MI91+xoBsdx1DLcTunsretWe18IqmsJf9VA 2uQCY5qXi+rvZBv4EcA2qbdvZlTFbqRrhI9O3jdPqF3yVoF88QCow9A0W1lhk8Af 3LAW13v1MxEezobk19qBEROvstgO4hzSRz9KnDOwcPWzucn/Xy3KPOVS+DJSqkuJ PCDKh2FrT0jK7RPItGH+2+djMw10X+mEZ+FL1RGFl/uAQo450bH1djL4HUAAWA== =Fmp2 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --s2ZSL+KKDSLx8OML--