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Both you and jgarzik experienced mail getting tossed into gmail's spam
folder thanks to DKIM... I am concerned that DKIM is too fragile and not
very compatible with mailing lists.

We already removed the footer because it was incompatible with DKIM
signing.  Keeping the "[Bitcoin-dev] " prepend tag in subject is compatible
with DKIM header signing only if the poster manually prepends it in their
subject header.

I am already concerned that the lack of the Mailman footer will make it
hard to identify where exactly subscribers need to go to unsubscribe or
look at archives.  Removing the subject tag might make DKIM enforcement
work a lot better, but I can easily see our obtuse subscribers as being
extra confused by this.

Opinions?

Warren

On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Arthur <arthur@powaaa.com> wrote:

> warren | bad_duck: try manually adding "[Bitcoin-dev] " to the beginning
> of the subject
>
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> Arthur
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Both you and jgarzik experienced mail getting tossed =
into gmail&#39;s spam folder thanks to DKIM... I am concerned that DKIM is =
too fragile and not very compatible with mailing lists.<br></div><div><br><=
/div>We already removed the footer because it was incompatible with DKIM si=
gning.=C2=A0 Keeping the &quot;[Bitcoin-dev] &quot; prepend tag in subject =
is compatible with DKIM header signing only if the poster manually prepends=
 it in their subject header.<div><br></div><div>I am already concerned that=
 the lack of the Mailman footer will make it hard to identify where exactly=
 subscribers need to go to unsubscribe or look at archives.=C2=A0 Removing =
the subject tag might make DKIM enforcement work a lot better, but I can ea=
sily see our obtuse subscribers as being extra confused by this.</div><div>=
<br></div><div>Opinions?</div><div><br></div><div>Warren</div><div class=3D=
"gmail_extra"><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 11:38 =
PM, Arthur <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mailto:arthur@powaaa.com" targe=
t=3D"_blank">arthur@powaaa.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class=
=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padd=
ing-left:1ex"><u></u><div><div style=3D"font-family:arial,sans-serif;font-s=
ize:13px">warren | bad_duck: try manually adding &quot;[Bitcoin-dev] &quot;=
 to the beginning of the subject<br><br>--<br>Arthur</div></div>
</blockquote></div><br></div></div>

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