Return-Path: Received: from smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (smtp1.linux-foundation.org [172.17.192.35]) by mail.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 2821918AD for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:31:01 +0000 (UTC) X-Greylist: from auto-whitelisted by SQLgrey-1.7.6 Received: from mout.perfora.net (mout.perfora.net [74.208.4.196]) by smtp1.linuxfoundation.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3F0EEC for ; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 08:30:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ig0-f173.google.com ([209.85.213.173]) by mrelay.perfora.net (mreueus002) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0MDweP-1ZrcfF11cF-00HKnJ for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 10:30:58 +0200 Received: by igbkq10 with SMTP id kq10so13668960igb.0 for ; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 01:30:57 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.50.57.84 with SMTP id g20mr2969041igq.18.1443774657644; Fri, 02 Oct 2015 01:30:57 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.50.32.164 with HTTP; Fri, 2 Oct 2015 01:30:57 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Fri, 2 Oct 2015 10:30:57 +0200 Message-ID: From: Adam Back To: =?UTF-8?B?Sm9yZ2UgVGltw7Nu?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:eBNYtqxs8xYlU7CfS5ss20E9Vylf+WRrvUgFMQLuFvt2sXrRtAR NhHcgmIGdJ83+aaKKYx/4JEVgnRN+K2TXmJ4AOB2JguFgUHPOzBDFaZf7gPhBgY9kpKSyzP 1KM5vpWAWOyKVU96Z2nDD5Sk7XmyzLpl8awCWQXgvxX8VXG1wht23KVoUyRbHoKLxHn/Ch6 yukVT+TFjE9v5McoD3VIQ== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:KVAoh9m2cD4=:8m3oAvNrqzu5Lgg0wox+1y sv4ikuXoXewbZheI2bQOhiC65IMRT8cX5X3Bwl6FOPD5ghv1I5dr9BdyHJm/ICFrjvpUxm6fL bIdgspmUTsAvg5Al1aZXz9Mm9Ih/hhEzZim5REDGedPrqRmM94d+Jawna9hBYkXrN2XrFxXQe clwit1wniw5FVzFL1JOdymLdeDR0uyiUpdqmYI3hD/B6ZJguGRYHEMzmrr0EnB+v6yuHR+kWb rqgw6YSbbyhWLyBTAuwzYEp4/2W8oTtXPjKN2++b1tOtnBMGRIPx6o+ceSN0dcmuykvZx/ea1 4qK9wBphBV0CTvWfoOTJpuv7OMNgm2Wx1AwR+z8m/kWA760ckytbqcO/qNBCYZyWFeS0O4nJ3 7QSgieRMS0Q21HAgvUOfICg4OaPCi/cDY3eVSclNS8rwD/YwzfFE5I5Al8LMaq9ZXtv7Il8eW CjAkxc/DZ7ySvZ/Kg3pEkUIcn59LKvRuJL9E/oV8YBup1artUcq/TJzmThboj37LRK4NGhGlA USoDA4QiEG3mIe8DP7EsSO7ORYRDwP7GNDEGK+ECIbm1D5tHoySXfED+wQ7p48+te0ALuJspz P2jTWauwQwTI7CtD4ZoM8wj+ef2z6o9DJxIzkca+JxzvgdYcel6U7L94DTmDazDEawKzOnIXq /VDSUh72OKL/8Tc+05rr8vP4gvmxMNDfHq/9BlUpaJW8lBdQmPd7VNYcjiVJTHWoCxCzQkyYn AxjbtTxwVxk6NZ5J X-Spam-Status: No, score=-1.9 required=5.0 tests=BAYES_00,RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE autolearn=ham version=3.3.1 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 3.3.1 (2010-03-16) on smtp1.linux-foundation.org Cc: Bitcoin Dev , Daniele Pinna Subject: Re: [bitcoin-dev] Dev-list's stance on potentially altering the PoW algorithm X-BeenThere: bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.12 Precedence: list List-Id: Bitcoin Development Discussion List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Fri, 02 Oct 2015 08:31:01 -0000 See also https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/3n5nws/research_paper_as= ymmetric_proofofwork_based_on/cvl922x Adam On 2 October 2015 at 10:20, Jorge Tim=C3=B3n wrote: > > On Oct 2, 2015 10:03 AM, "Daniele Pinna via bitcoin-dev" > wrote: >> >> should an algorithm that guarantees protection from ASIC/FPGA optimizati= on >> be found. > > This is demonstrably impossible: anything that can be done with software = can > be done with hardware. This is computer science 101. > And specialized hardware can always be more efficient, at least energy-wi= se. > > On the other hand, BIP99 explicitly contemplates "anti-miner hardforks" > (obviously not for so called "ASIC-resistance" [an absurd term coined to > promote some altcoins], but just for restarting the ASIC and mining marke= t > in case mining becomes too centralized). > > > _______________________________________________ > bitcoin-dev mailing list > bitcoin-dev@lists.linuxfoundation.org > https://lists.linuxfoundation.org/mailman/listinfo/bitcoin-dev >