Received: from sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com ([172.29.43.192] helo=mx.sourceforge.net) by sfs-ml-1.v29.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1WXABC-0002cY-1w for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:05:42 +0000 Received-SPF: pass (sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com: domain of gmail.com designates 209.85.214.174 as permitted sender) client-ip=209.85.214.174; envelope-from=mh.in.england@gmail.com; helo=mail-ob0-f174.google.com; Received: from mail-ob0-f174.google.com ([209.85.214.174]) by sog-mx-2.v43.ch3.sourceforge.com with esmtps (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) (Exim 4.76) id 1WXABA-0004g3-4T for bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:05:42 +0000 Received: by mail-ob0-f174.google.com with SMTP id wo20so6618710obc.33 for ; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:05:34 -0700 (PDT) MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Received: by 10.60.229.228 with SMTP id st4mr35088764oec.16.1396879534698; Mon, 07 Apr 2014 07:05:34 -0700 (PDT) Sender: mh.in.england@gmail.com Received: by 10.76.96.180 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Apr 2014 07:05:34 -0700 (PDT) In-Reply-To: References: Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2014 16:05:34 +0200 X-Google-Sender-Auth: rXLpHE0OY9a_xBeQZtx_sJ1hnlE Message-ID: From: Mike Hearn To: Andreas Schildbach Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=001a11362fb075b6ac04f6745c18 X-Spam-Score: -0.5 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam Filtering performed by mx.sourceforge.net. See http://spamassassin.org/tag/ for more details. -1.5 SPF_CHECK_PASS SPF reports sender host as permitted sender for sender-domain 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (mh.in.england[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.1 DKIM_SIGNED Message has a DKIM or DK signature, not necessarily valid -0.1 DKIM_VALID Message has at least one valid DKIM or DK signature X-Headers-End: 1WXABA-0004g3-4T Cc: Bitcoin Dev Subject: Re: [Bitcoin-development] Why are we bleeding nodes? X-BeenThere: bitcoin-development@lists.sourceforge.net X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.9 Precedence: list List-Id: List-Unsubscribe: , List-Archive: List-Post: List-Help: List-Subscribe: , X-List-Received-Date: Mon, 07 Apr 2014 14:05:42 -0000 --001a11362fb075b6ac04f6745c18 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 > > My guess is that a large number of users have lost interest after they > lost their money in MtGox. The 24th of February coincides with the > "final" shutdown Sigh. It would not be surprising if MtGox has indeed dealt the community a critical blow in this regard. TX traffic is down since then too: https://blockchain.info/charts/n-transactions-excluding-popular?timespan=60days&showDataPoints=false&daysAverageString=1&show_header=true&scale=0&address= Judging from comments and the leaked user db, it seems a lot of well known people lost money there (not me fortunately). I wish I could say people have learned but from the size of the deposit base at Bitstamp they clearly have not. A lot of Bitcoin users don't seem to be ready to be their own bank, yet still want to own some on the assumption everyone else either is or soon will be. So it's really only a matter of time until something goes wrong with some large bitbank again, either Bitstamp or Coinbase. Some days I wonder if Bitcoin will be killed off by people who just refuse to use it properly before it ever gets a chance to shine. The general public doesn't distinguish between "Bitcoin users" who deposit with a third party and the real Bitcoin users who don't. --001a11362fb075b6ac04f6745c18 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
My guess is that a large number of users have lost interest after they
lost their money in MtGox. The 24th of February coincides with the
"final" shutdown

Sigh. It would n= ot be surprising if MtGox has indeed dealt the community a critical blow in= this regard. TX traffic is down since then too:


Judging from comments and the leaked user db, it seems = a lot of well known people lost money there =C2=A0 (not me fortunately). I = wish I could say people have learned but from the size of the deposit base = at Bitstamp they clearly have not. A lot of Bitcoin users don't seem to= be ready to be their own bank, yet still want to own some on the assumptio= n everyone else either is or soon will be. So it's really only a matter= of time until something goes wrong with some large bitbank again, either B= itstamp or Coinbase.

Some days I wonder if Bitcoin will be killed off by peo= ple who just refuse to use it properly before it ever gets a chance to shin= e. The general public doesn't distinguish between "Bitcoin users&q= uot; who deposit with a third party and the real Bitcoin users who don'= t.
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